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Stop Spinning: Contrarian Thoughts on Hillary
Opinion Journal ^ | June 29, 2006 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 07/02/2006 12:09:12 PM PDT by all the best

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To: UCANSEE2
Peggy Noonan was a guest on EWTN's 25 anniversary tour in Philly.

At the end of the program Raymond Arroyo asked her about her prediction regarding the 08 elections. She said that she thought Hillary Clinton was in the best position to win the Democrat nomination.

It was hysterical, the crowd booed and hissed at her name. Peggy laughed and said I knew we could get a get a boo out of you folks.

She said the field is wide open for the Republicans, but mentioed George Allen, Sam Brownback and Rick Santorum. She got applauds for all the Republicans mentioned.

21 posted on 07/02/2006 2:24:36 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: johnny7

Lately her best writings have been on the Catholic Church and JP II.


22 posted on 07/02/2006 2:26:21 PM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: Madame Dufarge
I swear you could almost hear her thinking, "How would a human respond to this situation?"

LOL... I had a project manager who operated like that... I think the women hated her more(if that was possible) than the men. Never heard her say anything that didn't come out slow, crafted and disingenuous.

23 posted on 07/02/2006 2:51:09 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Cicero

Interesting take.

Her tendency to simplify seems more a function of her thinking than her style, tho.
(As opposed to Steyn. I love Steyn.)
Style aside, she is a lot like Dowd, I'm afraid.


24 posted on 07/06/2006 7:31:13 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Madame Dufarge; All
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CARVILLE AGITPROP + THE CLINTON JACKBOOT
'THE POWER OF HILLARY': THE TITLE



CARVILLE'S 'Clinton is electable! Clear the way!' BATTLE CRY SPELLS TROUBLE FOR HILLARY


'HILLARY'S BIGGEST PROBLEM... SHE'S OLD NEWS'


THE DECLINE OF HILLARY CLINTON: THE DYNAMICS
(SHE HAS ONLY ONE WAY TO GO. AND IT ISN'T UP.)


THE POLITICS OF DUMPING HILLARY (see post 53)


HILLARY + THE CLINTON RAPE OF JUANITA BROADDRICK:
WAS ANN COULTER TOO TIMID?


TIRE INFLATION, GAS STATIONS + THE NEED TO SEQUESTER HILLARY


HILLARY GOES NUCLEAR
PROLIFERATION IN THE AGE OF CLINTON



Nina Burleigh: Do the Right Thing, Hillary



COPYRIGHT MIA T 2006


25 posted on 07/06/2006 7:35:47 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Cicero
She does have a speech-writers habit of simplifying and writing down to her audience, which I find a minor annoyance. I prefer someone like Steyn who writes with sharp intelligence and the hell with you if it's over your head. It's not that Peggy is stupid, it's just the way she has trained herself to write.--Cicero

 

'Speeches in our culture are the vacuum that fills a vacuum.' --John Kenneth Galbraith




She seems like someone who might calculatedly go to war, or not, based on how she wanted to be perceived and look and do. She does not seem like someone who would anguish and weep over sending men into harm's way.... Hillary is like someone who would know she should be moved but wouldn't be because she couldn't be because . . . well, why? That is the question. Maybe a lifetime in politics has bled some of the human element out of her. Maybe there wasn't that much to begin with. Maybe she thinks that if she wept, the wires that hold her together would short.

PEGGY NOONAN
Stop Spinning
Contrarian thoughts on Hillary



The 'girl who wrote the poetry' was the Peggy-Noonan putdown of choice by some on Reagan's staff.

'Thousand points of light' 1or 'if she wept, the wires that hold her together would short,' that is, the 'poetry,' suggests a thinking process that is more visual than analytical.


1. See W. H. Auden, Charles Dickens and Thomas Wolfe, among others.


26 posted on 07/07/2006 2:09:35 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Cicero; All
Unlike, let's say, Maureen Dowd, who writes in an atrocious, pseudo-pop style because she's a conceited idiot. --Cicero
 

 



Affectation can take various forms....

One high school friend of Noonan asks: "[W]here did she get that affected unctuous delivery that sounds like a gene splice between William Buckley Jr. and Thurston Howell III?"
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Another observes, "Somewhere along the way she developed the 'snot style' of talk that she uses now.  While an intense talker during high school, at that time she didn't speak as if she were to the manor born--the affectation seems to have arisen out of a desire to become a female William F. Buckley, Jr."
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Noonan graduated from a New Jersey high school, (a B student), and attended the local NJ college (FDU). Yet she never mentions Jersey. Says she's from Long Island.

Maybe Peggy's 'snot style' of speech was the mechanism by which she distanced herself from her 'Joisey' origins, much as it was for Martha.

 

1. "Peggy, We Hardly Knew Ye", Part I, Peggy Noonan: The High School Years, Gloria R. Lalumia

2. "Peggy, We Hardly Knew Ye", Part II, Peggy Follows the Path to Success and We Meet Along the Way, Monica Finch


27 posted on 07/07/2006 2:52:50 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

I can't disagree. I usually agree with what she's saying, when she's not bashing Bush because she's jealous about Reagan's legacy, but I don't admire her style.

On the other hand, I'd say she's a second-rater for style, whereas Maureen Dowd is a fourth-rater.


28 posted on 07/07/2006 5:58:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I wonder if some of the jealousy has to do with the fact that she wasn't tapped to write the speeches? Or the fact that the person who was, Mike Gerson, is universally regarded by his peers as one of the greatest presidential speechwriters ever?


29 posted on 07/07/2006 6:27:44 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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