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The Power of Hillary [Mega Barf Alert!]
Washington Post ^ | 7/2/06 | James Carville and Mark J. Penn

Posted on 07/02/2006 2:55:34 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom

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To: Oshkalaboomboom
she's tough vicious enough to handle the viciousness of make it tough for anyone else in a national campaign and the challenges of the presidency itself.

One thing we know about Clinton campaigns: Nobody gets Swift Boated inconvenient truths get suppressed by journalism.

It almost worked for Kerry in '04, but the SBVT campaign made the critical difference in OH. When you talk to a liberal about the Clinton Administration (I remember when I couldn't capitalize that expression) you have to get past the smoke and mirrors to get them to focus on reality. And when I say "smoke and mirrors" I do not mean to say that liberals actually think that WJC was not guilty as charged; the real illusion of WJC is "It's all irrelevant" and "Everybody does it."

WJC was in the White House with the extremely parochial and even personal agenda to "comfort the the afflicted and afflict the comfortable" (according to his lights, of course). WJC derided issues of foreign policy and national security during his campaign, and during his two terms he slashed the military budget and drastically reduced the size of the Army. His first Secretary of Defense, Les Aspin, blundered into the Black Hawk Down fiasco and, properly, accepted responsiblity for his mistake and resigned. Given the historic contempt of the Democratic Party for the military, at that point the only recourse Clinton really had was to name a Republican to be Secretary of Defense.

The reality of the Clinton Administration was that WJC thought that History was dead, and his inattention to it allowed History to climb out of its coffin.

Put the matter in historic terms. The POTUS is the head of the government, and symbolic head of the nation. As head of government, the POTUS hires the cabinet heads of the departments of

If you are going to hire people for those jobs, you should have experience hiring and supervising people for analogous jobs, and should be qualified to actually do the most critical of them. A governor has that sort of experience in domestic affairs and state law enforcement, and is therefore the most prominent credential for a POTUS.

But it is notable that in the past generation no Democrat has even served one term as Secretary of Defense with his reputation intact. And in the generation before that, there were two Democratic Secretaries of Defense - one of whom left the military in a notable shambles for the Reagan Administration to set right, and the other of whom got the casualties flowing in the Vietnam War and continued in office after he had abandoned hope of success. And the generation before that, a Democratic Secretary of Defense was utterly flat-footed when North Korea invaded the south, and got into the stalemate which led to the current impasse.

Anyone who proposes that Hillary could be an effective SecDef, or be willing and able to hire and retain a good one, is smoking something funny. And anyone who proposes that we should trust Hillary, with her friends Webb Hubble, Jamie Gorelick, et al, to head up the Justice Department . . .

The rest of the government departments are just opportunities for corruption.


21 posted on 07/02/2006 5:48:17 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

"One thing we know about Clinton campaigns: Nobody gets Swift Boated."

Yeah. They end up dead.


22 posted on 07/02/2006 5:58:44 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (Stop the ACLU - Support the Public Expression of Religion Act 2005 - Call your congressmen.)
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To: backhoe

That's a keeper! LOL!


23 posted on 07/02/2006 6:58:01 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; All

Excuse me .. people were expecting something different from Cueball ..?? Of course he's going to say she can win .. because a win for her will give him power.

Power is all any of them want .. and they don't care what they have to say or do to get it!


24 posted on 07/02/2006 9:17:14 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
"...when many pundits -- and Democrats -- said there was no way that Hillary could get elected to the Senate. She won by 12 percentage points."

Those quotes were from when she was running against Rudy and they were true. More propaganda from the King of Misdirection.
25 posted on 07/02/2006 10:07:19 AM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: beyond the sea
thx for the heads up bump

CARVILLE'S 'Clinton is electable! Clear the way!' BATTLE CRY SPELLS TROUBLE FOR HILLARY

26 posted on 07/02/2006 11:19:06 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Hillary won because Rudy dropped out. Lazio in my opinion wasn't that strong a candidate. And if you look at where the poll is coming from,(I wouldn't trust one liberal news stations polls for a minute). And that walking penis with eyes will say anything.

Mary needs to bra beat him more often.


27 posted on 07/02/2006 12:25:39 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Do you know why Al Gore won't let Hillary swim in the ocean ? She kills the algae
28 posted on 07/02/2006 1:09:38 PM PDT by al baby (Dick Trickle is not a medical condition)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Adversaries spent $60 million against her in 2000, and she endured press scrutiny that would have wilted most candidates. She gave as good as she got, and she triumphed.

I would point out that that was then, this is now. Bunchcha water's run under the bridge since then... Like the fact that she was coming off eight years of being first "lady" and was running against an unknown (Lazio).

Folks today are much more knowledgeable about The Hildabeaste and X42/rapist/perjurer. IMHO, this knowledge will make a big difference. And she won't be running against an unknown.

29 posted on 07/02/2006 2:26:35 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

They'll have to look elsewhere since Hill will fail miserably during the primaries. Colin Powell's probably getting a few phone calls from the boys in the back room.


30 posted on 07/02/2006 2:30:04 PM PDT by hershey
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Bingo.


31 posted on 07/02/2006 2:33:48 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
... she endured press scrutiny that would have wilted most candidates. She gave as good as she got, and she triumphed.

Flat out BS. She never answered a single question that wasn't pre-scripted. The pansy ass NY media flunkies bent over and spread 'em from the start to the finish, and Hillary's strap-on carried the day.

She has never yet faced the voters, and she won't this year, in her re-election to the Senate. In 2008 she will have to find a strategy for handling the national media if she is to win.

32 posted on 07/02/2006 3:33:18 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

What you said in spades!


33 posted on 07/03/2006 3:51:35 PM PDT by demkicker (democrats and terrorists are intimate bedfellows)
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To: sgtbono2002

Americca is not interested in an old lesbian for president.


34 posted on 07/03/2006 3:54:55 PM PDT by jetson
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To: Always Independent

I am offended by your calling Carville a walking penis, or rather my penis is offended.


35 posted on 07/03/2006 6:11:01 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
People know that Hillary has strong convictions, even if they don't always agree with her.

No, the fact of the matter is that she should be convicted.

36 posted on 07/03/2006 6:15:43 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

I wonder if, and that is the big IF, she were elected, do you think she would return the furniture she stole on her last visit there?


37 posted on 07/03/2006 6:48:26 PM PDT by casino66
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To: sgtbono2002

I'm sorry, mines mad at me too! BUT LOOK AT HIM! Is there a better description;-)


38 posted on 07/04/2006 12:38:45 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Maybe no one gets "swift-boated" but she sure as hell will get FBI-filed, cattle-futured, Vince-Fostered, Sociaized-medicined, Craig-Livingstoned, vast-right-wing-conspirasied, Web-Hubbelled, Lewinskied, Travelgated, Saul-Alinskied,...


39 posted on 07/06/2006 5:37:45 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: beyond the sea; All
CARVILLE AGITPROP + THE CLINTON JACKBOOT
'THE POWER OF HILLARY': THE TITLE

40 posted on 07/06/2006 6:05:09 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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