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Al-Jazeera: Another Israeli soldier kidnapped
Al-Jazeera ^ | July 1, 2006

Posted on 06/30/2006 6:20:04 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: DrGunsforHands
This is quite possibly the least intelligent group of people I have ever seen. Unless, of course, their intention is to push Israel to all out war. Then they're right on target with their tactics.

They are actually trying to push the world to all out war. They believe this will usher the return of the big "Mo".

If fact, if you look at everything they do, it is not to gain tactical advantage...it is simply to incite war...they are actively trying to start Armegeddon...that is the whole purpose of their actions. Once that is understood, everything they do makes more sense...in an evil warped sort of way.

61 posted on 06/30/2006 8:52:38 PM PDT by IllinoisConservative
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"Bush administration: STOP handcuffing Israel and let them take out the trash!"
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Ummm, I don't think anyone's listening. They're eating peanut butter and banana sandwiches and visiting Graceland. Stupid Roadmap for Peace visions dancing before their eyes...


62 posted on 06/30/2006 8:56:58 PM PDT by cowdog77
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To: West Coast Conservative
To Israel:

"If you are going to shoot, shoot. Don't talk."

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63 posted on 06/30/2006 9:03:24 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: cowdog77
What would you like President Bush to do? Sound the alarm! Pull troops out of Iraq! Defend Israel! If you don't believe America is helping Israel in this situation on some level (INTEL!!!) you clearly should not be discussing the topic.

This situation worries the government of America deeply. Palestine is a terrorist state with allies like Iran (which we are in a standoff with) and Syria. Stop acting as if Israel could "take out the whole world if only those pesky Americans would let us go!!!"

Get a clue. Israel is a mouse compared to America and this war in Palestine could impact the war in Iraq with Iran looming on the horizon. All you calling for nuclear weapons or an all out assault on Palestine need to realize this is a much more serious situation that Israel needs to tread on with caution.

Next maybe you can do a documentary about how during the start of the Israeli assault on West Bank George Bush ate peanut butter and banana sandwiches and didn't do a damn thing. Can you get Mr. Moore's autograph for me?
64 posted on 06/30/2006 9:06:02 PM PDT by albyjimc2 (If dying's asked of me, I'll bear that cross with honor, cause freedom don't come free...)
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To: albyjimc2
Iran has thousands of missiles pointed into Iraq. There are thousands more pointed into Israel.

I very much doubt they have "thousands" capable of reaching anywhere in Iraq besides maybe Basra, or other border cities. They certainly don't have "thousands" capable of reaching Israel. Even Saddam had to launch his Scuds from the western part of Iraq to be able to reach Israel. Iran has better missiles than that, but only a few tens of them, at most. Israel can shoot down a few tens, as can the US forces in Iraq. Besides, they can't launch them all at once, and once they'd launched a few, the launch sites for the rest would cease to exist It's not 1991 anymore.

65 posted on 06/30/2006 9:06:38 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Yes, I understand it is not 1991 anymore, but Iran still has stock piles of missiles pointed into Iraq. It is much the same situation as North and South Korea with artillery and missiles lined up on the boder. Hezoballah in Lebanon has nisiles and rockets pointed into Israel.

All I am saying is that this would be a full scale operation. If nuke sites had to be taken out, I do not believe israel could handle all of this on their own from warplanes. American naval vessels would be needed with long range missiles.

That is off the main subject, but it all comes together to a point. My point is that I do not believe Israel could handle all of this on their own. They are no "held on a leash by liberal George" because America doesn't rush off to war or nuke them on the spot. Its just too big of a job for them to handle solely on their own.

by the way, Baghdad is about 100 miles from Iran.


66 posted on 06/30/2006 9:23:07 PM PDT by albyjimc2 (If dying's asked of me, I'll bear that cross with honor, cause freedom don't come free...)
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To: albyjimc2
Baghdad is about 100 miles from Iran.

I know, but I still say they don't have "thousands" of missiles that can go that far. The missiles in Lebanon can reach northern Israel, but not Tel Aviv or Jerusalem, unless the Syrians have moved some heavier ones (back?) into the Bekka valley. The Israelis could handle a few missiles at a time, the long range type. We can handle a few at a time in Iraq. What does not exist in either place is the sort of weight of metal the N.Koreans have along the DMZ, which is tube artillery, close enough to Seoul to be a big problem. The situations are not at all comparable.

67 posted on 06/30/2006 10:03:47 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Windsong
["War is hell."]

Very good "General Sherman."

Notice today Nasir Oric was released by the "War Crimes" tribunal in the Hague for his acts of killing innocent Serbs in Bosnia (in the Serbenica area if you're not aware).

Oric is a Muslim...I wonder if Gen. Mladic would get the same treatment.

Mladic, of course would not, he's a Serb, not a muslim.

In short, these war crimes trials are silly. In fact, I could argue that General Sherman was a war criminal when he engaged in his so called; "March to the Sea" campaign.
68 posted on 06/30/2006 10:34:00 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: West Coast Conservative
The Palestinian militants have kidnapped a second Israeli soldier and have threatened to kill him unless Israel ends its military offensive in the Palestinian territories...

Spanish Civil War, 1936:

Colonel José Moscardó was the Nationalist commander holding the Alcázar of Toledo against Republican forces.

During the 70 day siege, Colonel Moscardo’s son Luis was kidnapped by the Red forces and a telephone call to him stated that his son would be shot unless he surrendered the Alcázar.

Colonel José Moscardó asked to speak to his son on the phone and his son asked his father what he should do.

Colonel José Moscardó then told his son, "Commend your soul to God and die like a patriot, shouting 'Long live Spain.' "

"That," answered his son, "I can do."

His son was shot and the Alcázar of Toledo never fell.

69 posted on 06/30/2006 11:03:28 PM PDT by Polybius
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To: albyjimc2
It is much the same situation as North and South Korea...

Hold on here my good friend...North Korea has Nuclear Weapons...Hezoballah doesn't.
70 posted on 06/30/2006 11:27:02 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think the main reason the administration won't give Israel a green light is because the U.S. is not anxious to be fighting wars on several fronts right now.


71 posted on 07/06/2006 9:00:27 AM PDT by varina davis
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