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Superman eschews longtime patriot act
The Hollywood Reporter ^ | 6/30/06 | Tatiana Siegel

Posted on 06/30/2006 8:01:53 AM PDT by Roberts

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To: tarheelswamprat

Way back in the day, when this Superman movie entered Development Hell, they had Kevin Smith working on a script. He is a comic book fanboy and he related a story about the project. He said that he talked with the person in charge at that time. This person told him that the studio really wanted to get Sean Penn for the role of Superman, because Sean could capture the rage and hatred of a caged animal, which was how the studio at that time saw Superman.
That said, this movie is an improvement, but still, I think I'll pass. "Click" looked cute though.


61 posted on 06/30/2006 8:56:53 AM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: altura

If you are coming to Vegas.. lol

It was a deal we got at the Palms hotel. We dont go into town too much but figured we might check this out.. not planning on it now.


62 posted on 06/30/2006 8:56:59 AM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Roberts

The movie was fantastic. Who cares what Dracula says.


63 posted on 06/30/2006 8:57:25 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (---an American in Maimi..............)
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To: Roberts

I'd have been surprised if they DID say "..and the American Way.."

Just ain't gonna happen in Hollywood Ver. 2.0


64 posted on 06/30/2006 8:59:41 AM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: chae
I understand your reservations. I think I'll still go see it myself. From what I've read and seen in the trailers I think I'll still enjoy it, especially the cinematography and soundtrack. I also suspect I'll really like Brandon Routh's portrayal of Superman, although I'd have loved to have seen Jim Caviezel in the part just for the sake of enraging the critics and the left. /grin

What gripes me is the insistence and determination of the Hollywood crowd to ram their agendas down our throats. It really detracts from the enjoyment of their product, and it's so unnecessary. I wish they'd just play it straight and stick to entertainment instead of preaching. They'd make more money that way, but they're too stupid and arrogant to see it.

With regard to Superman Returns, the flaws we've all pointed out and discussed on these threads are serious, but not fatal. It's still worth seeing.

65 posted on 06/30/2006 9:17:32 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: tarheelswamprat

I'll prolly see it, but not until it comes out on DVD. Redbox at McDonalds has DVD rentals for a $1.00.


66 posted on 06/30/2006 9:20:30 AM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: Roberts

67 posted on 06/30/2006 9:23:50 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: tarheelswamprat
What gripes me is the insistence and determination of the Hollywood crowd to ram their agendas down our throats. It really detracts from the enjoyment of their product, and it's so unnecessary. I wish they'd just play it straight and stick to entertainment instead of preaching. They'd make more money that way, but they're too stupid and arrogant to see it.

Apparently, it doesn't gripe you enough. When you vote with your wallet, you either support or object to the direction they are going. For this one, I'm also voting with MY wallet - I'm keeping it in my pocket. Hollyweird can go pound sand.
68 posted on 06/30/2006 9:25:55 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: tarheelswamprat

Very well said. Thanks.


69 posted on 06/30/2006 9:29:22 AM PDT by Roberts
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To: Huck

If you like Batman, "Batman Begins" was pretty good. Came out last year, with Christian Bale playing the lead. Pretty dark, very well done IMO.


70 posted on 06/30/2006 9:30:53 AM PDT by Roberts
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To: Roberts

Oh yeah, actually I saw that on pay per view. Yer right. It was pretty good.


71 posted on 06/30/2006 9:32:36 AM PDT by Huck (Hey look, I'm still here.)
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To: gdani

You are right that a new 'Justice League of America" will be started soon, next month #0 comes out. Also, this fall a new 'Justice Society of America' will start replacing the JSA book.

The new 'Justice League of America' is replacing the 'JLA' book run that began in the 90's When that book was released one of the known reasons that America wasn't used was they didn't want to offend anyone, also they hoped to make the book new and fresher at the time. Another reason was that of the seven members, four were from, Krypton, Mars, Atlantis, and Paradise Island. The reason, 'Justice League' animated series on cable left America out of the title was for the same reason.


72 posted on 06/30/2006 9:46:45 AM PDT by jbwbubba
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To: RexBeach

I want to know what the left pc crowd will do after we get hit again.And we will get hit again! I am very afraid it is going to be very bad. The enemy is just taking their time and counting on us to be forgetful and lazy. I ;pray we will be ready.


73 posted on 06/30/2006 9:47:44 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Roberts
This entire thing can be summed up in one word. Money. If this movie makes any, it will be because of worldwide distribution of DVDs and showings, so some beancounter weenie had a stroke and told the makers that if they wanted to make Superman, they better downplay the Americana.

I'll bet that's why they cast an Aussie, when there are probably 1,246,892 unknown actors in Los Angeles who would have killed for the chance. That way their international press releases can emphasize the "international hero" talking point.

74 posted on 06/30/2006 9:49:31 AM PDT by LexBaird ("Politically Correct" is the politically correct term for "F*cking Retarded". - Psycho Bunny)
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To: jbwbubba
When that book was released one of the known reasons that America wasn't used was they didn't want to offend anyone...

The reason, 'Justice League' animated series on cable left America out of the title was for the same reason.

Do you have any cites to back that up? I think it *could* be true but this is the first I've heard such a claim.

75 posted on 06/30/2006 9:50:56 AM PDT by gdani
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76 posted on 06/30/2006 9:55:44 AM PDT by Bratch
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Pitching an All-American classic makeover to a Eurotrash audience

My red state intuition warned naggingly of a gathering foul stench with this stinker. Classic Hollyweird mythology predictably produces prodigious piles of steaming PC cr@p dubbing it "tentpole."

INTERVIEW: Dan Harris & Michael Dougherty Talk About Writing Superman Returns

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Is Superman more universal in your movie?

Michael Dougherty: When it comes to the "American Way", I think it's tricky.

Dan Harris: I don't think the American Way means what it meant in 1945.

Michael Dougherty: Yeah, it's not quite as defined these days.

Dan Harris: There was a concerted effort to make this an international Superman. Yes, he landed in Kansas. Yes, he was raised by Americans but he is an alien. He is from Krypton. He has come to the Earth to be kind of a savior for this world. Not for our country.

Was all the Christian imagery in the movie a conscious choice?

Michael Dougherty: It's existed as part of the character since he was created. Moreso in that he's a classic mythological actor. It's Judeo-Christian. Christianity has it's roots in the Jewish religion. These two guys created a character which is non-denominational. It embraces and uses elements from Greek mythology, Christian mythology... it cherry picks ideas.

Dan Harris: Superman shows up to the earth ala Moses. There's a great deal of discussion in the movie about Greek mythology... the nature of Gods and what Gods are. Then it kind of moves into Christian mythology.


77 posted on 06/30/2006 9:57:19 AM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: Xenalyte

Nope, he was birthed in the United States from his incubation-pod spaceship... He's an anchor baby!... But still a U.S. citizen.


78 posted on 06/30/2006 9:58:50 AM PDT by Son Of The Godfather
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To: Caipirabob

Thanks for mentioning MiracleMan. I was reading up on the charcter in Wikipedia and he's pretty interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracleman


79 posted on 06/30/2006 10:05:15 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (---an American in Maimi..............)
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To: Roberts

Wasn't this the same attitude which caused Superman IV to tank at the box office?

Even the one with Richard Pryor did reasonably well at the box office.


80 posted on 06/30/2006 10:11:14 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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