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An All-Electric Car That Accelerates Faster Than a Ferrari
Technological Review ^ | June 28, 2006 | By Associated Press

Posted on 06/28/2006 11:20:15 AM PDT by aculeus

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To: Abathar

Bingo. People don't understand basic physics.


41 posted on 06/28/2006 11:53:07 AM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: aculeus

What a bargin "The Roadster will be able to drive about 250 miles on a single three-hour charge"...my Yukon travels 450 miles on a 15 minute fill-up...


42 posted on 06/28/2006 11:53:21 AM PDT by jrestrepo
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To: aculeus

They will build this so the Hollywood celebrity types will be able to tool around and be even more smug - if that's possible - than before. I can see all the Ed Begley Jr. types buying into this. Gee, and where does the fuel come from to power the electric generators at the local PG&E?

Fools.


43 posted on 06/28/2006 11:54:03 AM PDT by Obadiah (The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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To: Mannaggia l'America
Yup. Li-on and it's sibling, LiPo are considerably more volatile than either lead acid or NimH.

Seems that when they're overcharged or overdischarged, the lithium metal plates the anode which eventually leads to thermal runaway, which is what you're seeing in the pic you posted.

Most (responsible) manufacturers will put a protection circuit into the battery to monitor voltage to make sure it doesn't go above 4.26v/cell. Irresponsible manufacturers save money by eliminating the protection circuit. So, if you ever wondered why the OEM battery costs $50 and the third-party replacement costs $30, this is why.

They also have a limited lifespan of about two years, regardless of usage.

44 posted on 06/28/2006 11:56:19 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (Karen Ryan reporting...)
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To: martin_fierro

That is a brilliant solution to the problem of tailgating!


45 posted on 06/28/2006 11:56:35 AM PDT by Disambiguator (I'm not paranoid, just pragmatic.)
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To: aculeus

I saw the previews to this fim last night ...it had pics of the bad guy: Condi Rice and GW Bush...looks like Michael Moore wanna be

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Fighting the power over electric cars
By Glenn Whipp, Film Critic


Befitting its title, "Who Killed the Electric Car?" begins with a funeral (a mock one, but held at a real cemetery) and ends with an inquiry, one that implicates oil companies, auto manufacturers, the federal government, the California Air Resources Board and, yes, even you and me for the murder of an automobile that would be nice to have parked in your garage in these gas-gouging days.
There were several makes of electric cars, but Chris Paine's trenchant documentary focuses primarily on General Motors' EV1.

Launched in 1996, the car was fast and quiet, ran without exhaust, required no gas or oil changes and was so popular dealers kept a waiting list with tens of thousands of names.

But then GM took the cars off the road, recalling all the EV1s, which had been leased to the owners — including Hollywood A-listers like Mel Gibson (who is interviewed here in his full-on, wild-eyed "Apocalypto" glory) — without the option to buy. Paine himself drove an EV1, and like most of his brethren, really wanted to keep the car. GM didn't offer him the choice. So he decided to learn why, and "Who Killed the Electric Car?" is the result.

Paine's movie manages to entertain and infuriate, sometimes simultaneously, as he investigates the reasons why a U.S. automaker — one with some serious problems — would invest in a product only to sabotage it at every turn. GM created the EV1 as an answer to California's Zero Emissions Mandate, created in 1990, which required 2 percent of new vehicles sold in the state to be emission-free by 1998, 10 percent by 2003.

As Al Gore eloquently explained in "An Inconvenient Truth," crisis can be a powerful incentive to change and create. But we live in a world where industry prefers the status quo, with a circle-the- wagons, short-term mentality that fights change in the face of all reason. To watch flunkies for oil companies and automakers offer bald lies about the electric vehicle program is to observe a corporate climate in denial, a condition that will remain the same until consumers vote with their pocketbooks.

And while Paine thoroughly and diligently damns all parties concerned, the most incredible footage comes courtesy of PBS's folksy TV personality Huell Howser, who stumbled onto a row of shiny electric cars while taping an innocuous a segment about a junkyard that shreds old vehicles. Howser can't understand why these cars are being destroyed. The junk man seems equally at a loss.

Of course, you'll learn the answer after watching this riveting piece of investigation, but you won't feel any better for the knowledge. You'd think GM would feel the same way, too, but somehow I doubt it. It's always somebody else's fault, even when your market share has slid into the toilet, you're bleeding red ink and you're spending more time finding new ways to lay off employees than devising innovative ways to build cars for the 21st century.





46 posted on 06/28/2006 11:56:42 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Personal Responsibility

Little Suzy!!!

FWIW I didn't consider these guys a hair band. Modern Day Cowboy came out and sounded a lot different than what I consider hair bands like White Lion/Europe/Winger


47 posted on 06/28/2006 11:56:50 AM PDT by techworker
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To: aculeus

Talk is cheap. Battery powered cars never are.


48 posted on 06/28/2006 11:57:11 AM PDT by keithtoo (The GOP is fortunate that the Dim's are even more spineless and disorganized.)
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To: aculeus

This newfangled "electricity" will never catch on...everybody knows it takes three times as much energy to create electricity than the amount of energy in that electricity.[/sarc]


49 posted on 06/28/2006 11:57:27 AM PDT by Lekker 1 (("Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau" - I. Fisher, Yale Econ Prof, 1929))
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To: aculeus
The Roadster will be able to drive about 250 miles on a single three-hour charge

Sure would suck to have to go cross-country in it.

50 posted on 06/28/2006 11:57:32 AM PDT by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: aculeus
The Roadster will be able to drive about 250 miles on a single three-hour charge, drive up to 135 miles per hour and accelerate from zero to 60 in four seconds, Eberhard said.

Those would be impressive numbers all right, but I'd sort of like to see a working prototype pull them off. But the Ariel Atom is an incredible little machine. Saves weight on windshield wipers by not having a windshield. Think of it as a 300-hp turbocharged go-kart. Yow-ZUH!

51 posted on 06/28/2006 11:57:52 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: aculeus

''I'm not the only person that would like to buy a car that's beautiful and fun to drive but also remain on the moral high ground,''

Make that moral high HORSE.


52 posted on 06/28/2006 11:58:31 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: Personal Responsibility

Hey hey hey, you can attack Rat, Twisted Sister and even GWAR, but lay off Tesla...


53 posted on 06/28/2006 11:59:26 AM PDT by Holicheese (Stanley Cup's new home IS North Carolina!)
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To: meandog
Chrysler spent a fortune developing their turbine car in the late 1950s and early 1960s. It was the wrong power source for the application. Turbines like to run at constant high RPMs for efficiency. The power/eficiency band is relativel narrow compared to reciprocating engines.

1963 Chrysler turbine. Only 50 were built. My Dad drove one for a week-end.


54 posted on 06/28/2006 12:00:29 PM PDT by Cobra64 (All we get are lame ideas from Republicans and lame criticism from dems about those lame ideas.)
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To: aculeus
To build the Roadster, Tesla engineers designed a sophisticated
battery system with more than 8,000 lithium-ion cells

Still stuck on old technology, I see...


55 posted on 06/28/2006 12:02:09 PM PDT by mikrofon (1.6GW +/-1 MW)
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To: Jhensy
Isn't the dirty little secret STILL that there's no air-conditioning in electric vehicles?

Nope.

I just picked up a Sunpentown portable 10000 btu heat pump for $364. It runs at 660 J/s (660 watts) which is equal to just 0.885 horsepower. You could get by with half that for air-conditioning the interior of a car.

Easy for an electric.

56 posted on 06/28/2006 12:02:31 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: aculeus
An All-Electric Car That Accelerates Faster Than a Ferrari

"V-Dub here in full effect with Tre...and his ride."
"It looks like it could fly."
"What time is it?"
"I dunno..."
"Time...to unpimp ze auto!"
[mash!...fwwwwwwip!...crash!]
"Oh, schnapp!!"

57 posted on 06/28/2006 12:04:07 PM PDT by RichInOC ("German engineering in da house, ja....")
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To: mc6809e

See blacklightpower.com


58 posted on 06/28/2006 12:05:52 PM PDT by timer
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To: aculeus
Isn't there some way to use the cars kinetic energy to recharge while driving? Then you could go forever.
59 posted on 06/28/2006 12:14:04 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Common Tator
The question they don't ask is what will they burn to get the electicity to run the car.


60 posted on 06/28/2006 12:14:59 PM PDT by Flashman_at_the_charge (A proud member of the self-preservation society)
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