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Christian Clergy Group Demands Catholic Church Abandon Opposition to Gay "Marriage"
LifeSiteNews ^ | 6/27/06 | Hilary White

Posted on 06/28/2006 6:04:33 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wideawake

They may get "leads" off the wires, but they do their own reporting.


41 posted on 06/28/2006 6:37:05 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: PeterPrinciple
That meaans they are not Christian and should be thrown out of the organization

Which organization do you mean?

43 posted on 06/28/2006 6:37:39 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: wagglebee

To respectfully paraphase our Holy Father, Pope Benedict :

"Go pound sand!"


44 posted on 06/28/2006 6:38:48 AM PDT by incredulous joe ("Somewhere in Massachusetts, a village is missing BOTH its idiots.")
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I think they obviously ARE that stupid!

On your second point, however, there is no point of dogma that forbids priests to marry, it is simply a discipline that is enforced in the Roman Church (instituted mainly to prevent the passing down of parishes and bishoprics from father to son) and could be relaxed by the Holy Father if he so chose. I too would find an experiment along these lines to be something that should be studied.

As for pedofiles in the priesthood, you should do a litte research here. According to several published studies, there is no greater incidence of pedofilia in the Catholic clergy than there is in the general population of any other clergy group (Christian or otherwise). The reason that this bit of misinformation is so widely believed is that the MSM has chosen the Church as a target of attack because it does not fit into their template for much the same reason that this letter was sent to Cardinal O'Malley.


45 posted on 06/28/2006 6:41:25 AM PDT by LurkLongley (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam-For the Greater Glory of God)
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To: wideawake
United Methodists as a denomination are opposed to gay marriage and have called for laws defining marriage as a union between one man and one woman. While there are some UM conferences that feel differently, this is the official position of the UM church.

I wouldn't want anyone to think that the clergy referenced in this article are speaking for the UM church.
46 posted on 06/28/2006 6:41:43 AM PDT by vamoose
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To: Carolina

Last week, ECUSA’s House of Deputies


This group, what ever their function should be thrown out of ECUSA. This last paragraph is "add on" info, not relating to the lies in the majority of the article.


47 posted on 06/28/2006 6:42:42 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Judith Anne

"The group consists of clergy from the American Baptist, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Quaker (or Society of Friends), Southern Baptist and United Methodist denominations."

They should publicly identify all these "clergy". I have doubt that they really exist but if they do they need to come forth and be honest about their beliefs and agendas.


48 posted on 06/28/2006 6:43:03 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: wagglebee
"The group consists of clergy from the American Baptist, Episcopal, Presbyterian, Quaker (or Society of Friends), Southern Baptist and United Methodist denominations."

Southern Baptist??? Somehow that doesn't seem to fit in with the other "churches". I don't recall the SB's "getting on board" the "queer train".

49 posted on 06/28/2006 6:43:49 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: redgolum
You do realize that is exactly what is happening. In many countries, parts of the Bible are "hate speech".

Nothing is happening that Christ didn't warn us about. We should not be so amazed.

50 posted on 06/28/2006 6:47:04 AM PDT by ImaGraftedBranch ("Toleration" has never been affiliated with the virtuous. Think about it.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Peter,

They are the governing body elected by people back home. So they ARE the Episcopal Church.


51 posted on 06/28/2006 6:48:57 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: LurkLongley
"I too would find an experiment along these lines to be something that should be studied."

Actually, such an experiment IS happening. With the influx into the RC church of married Episcopal priests AS RC PRIESTS, the ability of married clergy to perform as RC priests is being tested. That influx is only likely to increase with the current hoo-hah in the Episcopal church over selecting a woman as presiding bishop.

52 posted on 06/28/2006 6:50:31 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: wideawake
BTW, notice that the MSM headline says it is a Christian clergy group, and then admits much later in the article that the Unitarians are the largest part of the group - which means it is not Christian but interfaith.

Looks like a lame attempt by the MSM to promote division between Catholics and Protestants. Pathetic propaganda.
53 posted on 06/28/2006 6:51:45 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Outsource GM to a Red State! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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To: wagglebee
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

- 2 Timothy 3:1-8

I guess these people at the Religious Coalition for the Freedom to Marry haven't really read the Bible much. As the above states..."from such turn away."

54 posted on 06/28/2006 6:53:50 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: ImaGraftedBranch; Wurlitzer

Not surprised, but saddened. It is never fun to watch the slide to ruin, even when it is expected.


55 posted on 06/28/2006 6:54:56 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: ImaGraftedBranch

Hey Christian Clergy groups...what part of Leviticus 18:22
don't you get? Is the Word of God now irrelevant?

"Do not lie with a man as with a woman; it is an abomination". Lev. 18:22


56 posted on 06/28/2006 6:55:25 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: LurkLongley

Seems most forget, the Church is the Lord's, not mens. "He loved the Church and gave Himself for it." Christ puchased it with His own."Just maybe, they should consult the founder and owner of the Church!Also,maybe they should examine themselves and see if they are a part of His Church."


57 posted on 06/28/2006 7:01:32 AM PDT by Lee E. Tallent (Lee Tallent)
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To: wagglebee
We ask that you respect our faith traditions in return. Taking away civil marriage rights from committed, loving gay and lesbian couples would deny us the right to practice our beliefs. We would no longer be able to marry same-sex couples legally. The state would be in the position of granting full rights and protections to everyone married according to your beliefs, while denying those rights and protections to couples married according to ours.

In other words, you can't legislate your morality, but we can.

58 posted on 06/28/2006 7:04:50 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: vamoose

Fair enough - I was not aware of that. The UM church in my neighborhood and the UM church in PA my wife's cousin attends both approve of homosexual marriage and the ordination of practicing homosexuals.


59 posted on 06/28/2006 7:07:23 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: PeterPrinciple
Last week, ECUSA’s House of Deputies voted overwhelmingly to refuse to consider a resolution that affirmed Jesus Christ as the "only name by which any person may be saved,” a defining Christian doctrine.

That meaans they are not Christian and should be thrown out of the organization.

You have said. They have alot of nerve demanding that another church join their heresy. Sounds like the men of Sodom demanding the "favors" of Lot's angelic guests.

60 posted on 06/28/2006 7:07:56 AM PDT by madison10
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