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Polls for the Cannon-Jacob Race (Utah)
Deseret News & Salt Lake City Tribune ^ | June 25, 2006 | Various

Posted on 06/25/2006 4:55:14 AM PDT by Dane

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The thing that jumps out at me is the 9% error rate for Utah County in the Salt Lake City Tribune poll done by a Wash. DC polling service.

Also all polls were taken before Jacob said that satan was thwarting his campaign because he couldn't raise campaign funds remark.

1 posted on 06/25/2006 4:55:16 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Torie; deport

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2 posted on 06/25/2006 4:55:54 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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It's amazing to me that a plurality favors amnesty, especially in Utah.


3 posted on 06/25/2006 5:25:39 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Also all polls were taken before Jacob said that satan was thwarting his campaign because he couldn't raise campaign funds remark.

So is your saying crystal ball saying Jacob's religious remark will hurt him in the polls? In a religious district no less? Sounds mighty liberal of you. We'll have to wait and see won't we.

Except for the flawed Deseret Morning News one those polls are looking good for Jacob considering all the undecideds and the fact he was/is a relative unknown. Plus he's debating Monday against that clown you support, which may sway even more to his side.

5 posted on 06/25/2006 5:30:39 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Here's Chris Cannon, telling La Raza he's a hawk on illegal immigration, that's he's going to close down those borders and calling the Senate bill an "oddball freak show at the circus."


6 posted on 06/25/2006 5:37:59 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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I would have to go with the no amnesty candidate of course while pinching my nose

the thing is that Jacob(satan is thwarting my campaign) has his own amnesty plan called fast pass.

7 posted on 06/25/2006 6:05:34 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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It's amazing to me that a plurality favors amnesty, especially in Utah.

Yep kinda of takes the air out of some on FR's rhetoric, especially since the 3rd district is one of the most conservative in the nation.

It was a straightforward question poll and not a lou dobb's push poll.

8 posted on 06/25/2006 6:07:41 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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Yep kinda of takes the air out of some on FR's rhetoric, especially since the 3rd district is one of the most conservative in the nation.

Wrong again. That poll reflects the attitudes of liberals as well. Poll strictly Republicans then see what the results are. I'll bet they're different and those are the ones the House has to look at.

9 posted on 06/25/2006 6:11:19 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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I see you are using a CNN lou dobb's hit piece against Chris Cannon.

Well you can be endorsed by business dot com failure lou dobb's, I'd rather be endorsed by James Sensenbrenner as Chris Cannon has.

Again, it's the new, detailed Cannon - a good thing, says House Judiciary Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis. "What I can say is, in Congress there are workhorses and showhorses," Sensenbrenner says. "Chris Cannon is the workhorse. Workhorses get things done in Congress."

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10 posted on 06/25/2006 6:12:25 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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I see you are using a CNN lou dobb's hit piece against Chris Cannon.

A hit piece lol?? That's a good one Dane. The picture and his quotes speak for themselves.

11 posted on 06/25/2006 6:13:57 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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Wrong again. That poll reflects the attitudes of liberals as well. Poll strictly Republicans then see what the results are.

The poll reflects the attitudes of those who reside in Utah's 3rd district and in one of the most conservative districts in the country, the issue of immigration is spilt down the middle.

12 posted on 06/25/2006 6:14:35 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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The poll reflects everyone in the district, not just conservatives. Survey just them then see what the results are.


13 posted on 06/25/2006 6:17:19 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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A hit piece lol??

Hmm let me see, who would I rather have the support of, a respected Congressman such as James Sensenbrenner, or a failed dot com business journalist hack who works for the most liberal news network, lou dobbs.

I'll go with James Sensenbrenner.

14 posted on 06/25/2006 6:18:18 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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Regardless of who one supports, the first and third polls are junk, as they polled "residents."

The second one is only somewhat better, in that it polled "voters."

What one wants is "likely voters," and in this case, "likely Republican voters."

It seems odd to me that the polling firms aren't narrowing it down in this way. But we see this sort of thing all the time in polls...I assume it's because more accurate polls are more expensive to do.

15 posted on 06/25/2006 6:19:03 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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The poll reflects everyone in the district, not just conservatives. Survey just them then see what the results are

And that district(3-UT) is one of the most conservative in the nation.

16 posted on 06/25/2006 6:19:19 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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Regardless of who one supports, the first and third polls are junk, as they polled "residents."

And the second poll with a 9% margin of error in polling in one county is "legitimate".

A 9% margin of error in the polling world is considered junk.

But it looks like you wish to beleive the polls the polls you want to beleive.

17 posted on 06/25/2006 6:21:38 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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I didn't express an opinion on the race; I was only talking about the poor state of polling in this and other races.


18 posted on 06/25/2006 6:23:32 AM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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Hmm let me see, who would I rather have the support of, a respected Congressman such as James Sensenbrenner, or a failed dot com business journalist hack who works for the most liberal news network, lou dobbs.

You really do come up with the strangest of strawmen Dane.

Hhhmm let me see, who would I rather have the support of, Bob Lonsberry, a respected conservative in Utah or La Raza, a racist, separatist organization?

19 posted on 06/25/2006 6:24:30 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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I didn't express an opinion on the race; I was only talking about the poor state of polling in this and other races.

Well then don't pick and choose, you should have ststed all the polls are junk.

20 posted on 06/25/2006 6:25:15 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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