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New Israeli Rifle-Saturday Night Gun Porn
various ^ | 24 June 2006 | Various

Posted on 06/24/2006 8:36:25 PM PDT by Lurker

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To: Lurker

---"It is chambered in 5.56mm NATO"


Why not just use spit balls???


21 posted on 06/24/2006 8:54:18 PM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Boazo

Kewl


22 posted on 06/24/2006 8:56:53 PM PDT by umgud (Gov't needs a Department of Common Sense)
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To: edpc
On paper the bullpup design makes a lot of sense.

They kind of suck when you're standing at Parade Rest, though.

L

23 posted on 06/24/2006 8:57:05 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: Windsong; Lurker

Indian military & paramilitary units have signed up to buy the Tavor & Galil sniper rifles from IMI.


24 posted on 06/24/2006 8:58:03 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: Lurker

That's a telephonic rifle. You can really reach out and touch someone with that. Hope you get it.


25 posted on 06/24/2006 8:58:30 PM PDT by umgud (Gov't needs a Department of Common Sense)
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To: Lurker
FNH FS2000... Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
26 posted on 06/24/2006 8:58:54 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: edpc

Bullpup is the old project name for a British rifle project.

Modern assault rifles increase lethality with high velocity (which is helped by a long barrel, but a lot of combat occurs from vehicles, or in built up areas, where short rifle length is an advantage.

My rifle patent allows a 24 inch barrel in a 28 inch rifle, quick change barrel. That is with 7.62X51mm

Patent 6,079,138

The Tavor has pretty nice furniture, and has a nice crisp trigger, but I prefer a pistol grip for the front. No accounting for taste.


27 posted on 06/24/2006 8:59:09 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

You'd not want to get shot with the 223 at close range and this Israeli "rifle" is clearly meant for shooting things close up, as would be the case in gaza. It wouldn't be a useful hunting weapon.


28 posted on 06/24/2006 9:00:12 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: Lurker

Yes, yes, uhhh, hi, ahem, should have gone with the 6.8 round IMHO.


29 posted on 06/24/2006 9:01:35 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: Lurker

What are the advantages/disadvantages of the bullpup compared to a standard assault rifle configuration? (Just curious; I've used an M-16 but have never handled any other rifle.) Where do you put the bayonet?


30 posted on 06/24/2006 9:02:57 PM PDT by Tancred (AS)
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To: Windsong

I don't know how friendly you are but... Dude, want some gumbo, wash your car,...


31 posted on 06/24/2006 9:03:37 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: Lurker
I'm waiting for this to become available:

Caliber: 5.56 mm NATO (KE) and 20x85mm (HE)
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt (KE), unknown (HE)
Overall length: 890 mm
Barrel length: 250 mm (KE) 460 mm (HE)
Weight: ca 5.5 kg empty; ca 6.8 kg loaded
Magazine capacity: 20 or 30 rounds box (KE) and 6 rounds box (HE)

The history of the one of the most ambitious projects in the history of small arms, known as the OICW, or the Objective Individual Combat Weapon, began late in the 1986, when the US Army Infantry School at Ft. Benning published a military paper, named "Small Arms System 2000" (SAS-2000). Despite the current trends towards the caseless and fleschette ammunition and appropriate weapons, researched and developed under the ACR program (see HK G11 and Steyr ACR entries for some details), this paper stated that the conventional small arms already reached its technological peak, and the only way to increase the hit probability in the small arms is to introduce a weapon that will fire explosive and fragmentation warheads, combined with the smart fusing and sighting / aiming technologies. While the most small arms research during the late 1980s in the USA was conducted under the ACR program, the idea first developed in the SAS-2000 was supported by another US military paper, published in 1989 by the US Army TRADOC (Training & Doctrine) center. This paper, called "The Small Arms Master Plan" (SAMP), requested for a family of infantry "Objective" weapons, namely the Objective Individual Combat Weapon (OICW), Objective Personal Defense Weapon (OPDW), and the Objective Crew Served Weapon (OCSW). The SAMP stated that such weapons must utilize the latest developments in computers and visual technologies, as well as in the small arms, and combine both high explosive warheads and traditional bullets fire capabilities in a single weapon, that should be fielded circa 2000. Of cause, the timelines and most of the weight and cost requirements set in this paper looked unrealistic from the start, but the development of the Objective weapons began in the early 1990s.

During the early stages of research and development in the mid-1990 one out of the two teams was selected as a winner for further development contract. This team is lead by the US based Alliant Techsystems corporation (ATK), with the Heckler-Koch (Germany), Brashear and the Omega companies (both of USA) as the other team members. The ATK is responsible for system integration, and also develops the 20mm Air Burst munitions; HK is responsible for both the 5.56mm rifle and the 20mm grenade launcher; Brashear works on the sighting equipment and Omega provides the training means. The resulting weapon was type-classified by the US Army as the XM-29 circa 2002, and is scheduled to enter the service during the year 2008 in limited numbers. It will be then consequently upgraded with the new technologies then available. Present plans for fielding the M-29 are to issue four units per one infantry squad of 9 men. Early in the 2002 the XM-29 test weapons were successfully tested with the newest 20mm HEAB (High Explosive Air Bursting) munitions, which will be a major "kill factor" for the M-29 weapon. At the same time the "kinetic energy" part of the XM-29 was type-classified as the XM-8 light rifle, and, in the near future, could possibly replace the current Colt M4 carbines as a standalone compact conventional small arms.

32 posted on 06/24/2006 9:04:01 PM PDT by edpc
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Oh God that was a great looking weapon
33 posted on 06/24/2006 9:04:32 PM PDT by glaseatr (Proud Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep A. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: donmeaker
Got a prototype for 'testing purposes'?

I promise to send it right back when I'm done.

Honest...really I will.

L

34 posted on 06/24/2006 9:04:58 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: edpc

Too bad the OICW was canceled.


35 posted on 06/24/2006 9:05:02 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Apparently Being Mean to a Troll is Now Against the Rules.)
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To: Lurker
Then again, if you're interested in either mounting or cooking and eating whatever you're shooting at and want to ensure that it drops where it was shot whatever it might be, there's always America's most lethal firearm:


36 posted on 06/24/2006 9:05:23 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: Atchafalaya
I would prefer a heavier round as well but one must admit the Israelis know how to build firearms.

L

37 posted on 06/24/2006 9:06:20 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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To: Lurker

Lucky you, rub your head for me, please.


38 posted on 06/24/2006 9:07:04 PM PDT by Atchafalaya (When you're there, that's the best!!)
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To: COEXERJ145

That is too bad. I just saw it as part of a firearms history show on The History Channel.....must have been an old show.


39 posted on 06/24/2006 9:08:31 PM PDT by edpc
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To: Tancred
"Bullpuping" the weapon makes the overall length shorter but still allows for a full length barrel so there is no loss of velocity or accuracy.

It also makes it easier to handle in close quarters such as narrow alleys or inside an armored vehicle.

I'm not sure any provision has been made for a bayonet. I saw no mention of one on the website. Hopefully that will be corrected before they're issued generally.

Bayonets are a huge psychological weapon IMO.

L

40 posted on 06/24/2006 9:08:46 PM PDT by Lurker (When decadence pervades the corridors of power, depravity walks the side streets.)
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