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Israel Needs A Preemptive Nuclear Strike Against Iran
The Israel News Agency ^ | June 24, 2006 | Jonathan Ariel

Posted on 06/24/2006 1:32:23 PM PDT by IsraelBeach

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To: IsraelBeach

At least one conclusion can be drawn from this thread. If the most likely scenario does happen, most people are going to be very surprised.

We (the USA and real Americans--not the foreign-identity cheerleaders for Old Europe in our midst) have a right to assist Israel, and Israel has a right to defense. I hope that with our USA assistance, IAF pilots etch an enormous, burning Magen David into the rural Iranian landscape, as they poke successive holes into the mullahs' toys.

And after that, the people of most of western Europe should get down on their knees and thank Israel for defending their retched, rotting, anti-Israel countries (Germany being the only predominantly pro-Israel country among them).

Europe 'Within Missile Range of Iran'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1622436/posts

Iran missiles put Europe in range - report [German intel corroborated.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1622365/posts

Iran Receives North Korean 'Missile Shipment'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1625482/posts

Iran Bought Missiles From North Korea: Press
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1543307/posts


181 posted on 06/24/2006 9:15:58 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: mysterio
Nice try, no cigar Mysterio.
Let's review how you've switched things around here:

Cheney's statement:
1) If Israel is attacked, the United States will "obviously" militarily support its close Mideast ally, US Vice President Dick Cheney said in interview with CNBC television.

2) Cheney was asked if Washington would come to the military assistance of Israel if Iran or any of the terrorist groups it allegedly sponsors attacked Israel.

3) "I don't think there's any question but what we would support Israel under ***those circumstances.***

***

The key elements in Cheney's statement:
1) "If Israel is attacked..."
2) if Iran...attacked Israel."
3) "...under those circumstances."

***

Mysterio's statement from post #177:
"So Israel lobs a pre-emptive nuke..."

What you've done here Mysterio - is point out what Cheney said the U. S. might do - -- - if Israel ***is attacked.***

And what I have stated (and what this whole thread pertains to) - is that Israel does a pre-emptive attack (starting/initiating military action) - - which Mysterio - - is a totally different circumstance - from what Cheney is referring to.

It is you Mysterio - who have made logically incorrect assertions/insertions/quotes - and the readers easily recognize this.

Good try (deceiving) - but "no cigar" Mysterio.

***

Mysterio, you are now - - allowed to - - start over.

182 posted on 06/24/2006 9:33:09 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: garbageseeker

Unless that Patriots are PAC III's, you've got a much slimmer chance of negating an inbound warhead. This isn't my call to make, I just offered some friendly advice. If the wind's blowing wrong...


183 posted on 06/24/2006 9:34:51 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: mysterio

Now Mysterio, you need to be honest with yourself, with me and more importantly - with the reader!


184 posted on 06/24/2006 9:34:59 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: Sic Luceat Lux

So you are going on the record saying that the US will not support Israel militarily when the entire Middle East Swarms in after the pre-emptive nuke? Please clarify.


185 posted on 06/24/2006 10:05:07 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: jeffers

The have the latest Patriots(PAC-III) deployed around their cities and key facilities.


186 posted on 06/24/2006 10:12:33 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: jeffers
"Unless that Patriots are PAC III's, you've got a much slimmer chance of negating an inbound warhead. This isn't my call to make, I just offered some friendly advice. If the wind's blowing wrong..."

Yes, Israel fired four of its own Arrow 2 interceptors and successfully tested integration with PAC-3s (for backups) in January.

Western Europe is against our anti-ballistic missile defense systems and doesn't have any, to my knowledge, but has offensive capabilities. That, while Iranian leaders have mentioned their desire to both cause and incur massive casualties (to get Islamists in other countries going crazier). Western Europe should be more worried about Iran, which will soon likely acquire/modify missiles to ranges beyond those of the BM-25s recently received from N. Korea (BM-25s will reach Rome, and maybe London after being adapted back to smaller payload configurations).

Islamist leaders here and there have also advised Iranian leaders to keep the focus on hypothetical attacks against Israel. Even the UK press has followed their advice for some time now.

...looks like an Islamo-fascist plan is taking shape.
187 posted on 06/24/2006 10:25:54 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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To: familyop

Bump


188 posted on 06/24/2006 10:29:24 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Maybe you think that including a smattering of personal abuse in your reply will disguise the fact that you didn't address the actual point in any way at all?


189 posted on 06/24/2006 11:08:30 PM PDT by Canard
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To: MaDuce

"We're not talking about completely destroying an entire country. We're talking about destroying the Iranian capability of developing and using nuclear weapons which they have stated they would use on Israel when they have the means to do so."

You're wrong. Destroying an entire country (or even 2 or 3) is being advocated by several posters on this thread.


190 posted on 06/24/2006 11:10:42 PM PDT by Canard
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To: familyop

Great Post.


191 posted on 06/25/2006 12:09:20 AM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: mysterio
So you are going on the record saying that the US will not support Israel militarily when the entire Middle East Swarms in after the pre-emptive nuke?"

Glad to see you have pulled back within the confines of truthful discussion. However, you are now putting words in my mouth but regardless, I'll provide my best reply as to what should happen in this particular circumstance/your post #185.

I'd like to think that if it looks as if Israel were to be 'swarmed' over and obliterated, that the U S might come to their aid.
(I'd suggest no ground troops be inserted but only selected air power as a last resort to prevent a Gen. Custer scenario - but then again, I'm not a military strategist/just my opinion)

192 posted on 06/25/2006 7:47:17 AM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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To: IsraelBeach
"The world needs to understand very clearly that Israel cannot and will not allow a Holocaust
–denying regime that openly calls for its destruction to wield a nuclear bomb.
Israel needs to make it very clear that the consequence of it having to face a nuclear Iran by itself will be a preemptive strike against Iran.

"NEVER AGAIN"

193 posted on 06/27/2006 5:53:06 PM PDT by Sic Luceat Lux
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