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Flag burning — again (MoonBats UNHINGED-election year revival of that mother of all non-issues)
Register-Guard ^ | Thursday, June 22, 2006

Posted on 06/22/2006 9:34:21 AM PDT by IrishMike

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To: NeoCaveman
Plus the Dems have offered no alternative. I did an experiment on a middle of the road voter, I said Speaker Nancy Pelosi and it scared her half to death.

Scares me even more. Heck, I'd rather lose the Senate any day. But you make very valid points. I hope you are right. Take care.

61 posted on 06/22/2006 11:06:49 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: repentant_pundit

You are guilty having a very disrespectful attitude.


62 posted on 06/22/2006 11:06:55 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
I am sure "W" can be satisfactory counseled.

By whom? You??

LOL!

63 posted on 06/22/2006 11:07:59 AM PDT by steve-b (Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
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To: muawiyah

I thought it concerned some yob who set the flag on fire outside the Republican Convention in Texas? In any case, I'm with Justice Scalia on this one: there is no flag-burning exception to the First Amendment.


64 posted on 06/22/2006 11:08:09 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: muawiyah

Narrow interpretation of what things? What are you talking about? I bought my flag a few years ago and fly it on Flag Day and other occasions. I can do whatever I want with it.


65 posted on 06/22/2006 11:08:44 AM PDT by Mazda3Fan
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To: muawiyah
btw, muawiyah, I'm not in a business partnership with you. That is a stupid, childish argument that doesn't even reflect the basic fundamentals upon which you attempt to rely.

You have no property rights in the flag flying at my house, and you couldn't articulate a claim to such rights if someone gave you cue cards with the points arranged in teh proper order.

66 posted on 06/22/2006 11:09:12 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: lugsoul

This idea that he presents about property rights is stretching it beyond belief.


67 posted on 06/22/2006 11:11:02 AM PDT by Mazda3Fan
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To: Mazda3Fan
Criminalization of this act is nothing more than thoughtcrime. There are many reasons one could burn the flag, and desecration is in the eye of the beholder.

As I stated above, I believe that burning a flag could be a celebration of the very freedoms we hold dear in this country - we have the right to burn our own flag in dissent. While I don't like to see it, I believe to my core that the right to do so is a great, great thing about our nation.

68 posted on 06/22/2006 11:14:41 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: lugsoul

I couldn't agree with you more!


69 posted on 06/22/2006 11:17:35 AM PDT by Mazda3Fan
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To: lugsoul

Lugsoul, you are on your side of the line. I am on the other. Frankly, your side can take a hike and go back to the totalitarian sandpits where you belong.


70 posted on 06/22/2006 11:22:21 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: muawiyah
You are guilty having a very disrespectful attitude.

How so ? Like I said, I would never touch your flag. Because it's your property. And I respect everyone's property rights. And I respect you enough to not call you a punk, like you called lugsol.

Now, get off my Free Republic screen ! :-)

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71 posted on 06/22/2006 11:22:56 AM PDT by repentant_pundit (For the Sons and Daughters of Every Planet on the Earth)
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To: repentant_pundit

There's a button on the front of your Crt. Press it. I will shortly disappear.


72 posted on 06/22/2006 11:23:49 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: IrishMike

RAGGED OLD FLAG

I walked through a county courthouse square,
On a park bench an old man was sitting there.
I said, "Your old courthouse is kinda run down."
He said, "Naw, it'll do for our little town."
I said, "Your flagpole has leaned a little bit,
And that's a Ragged Old Flag you got hanging on it.

He said, "Have a seat", and I sat down.
"Is this the first time you've been to our little town?"
I said, "I think it is." He said, "I don't like to brag,
But we're kinda proud of that Ragged Old Flag."

"You see, we got a little hole in that flag there
When Washington took it across the Delaware.
And it got powder-burned the night Francis Scott Key
Sat watching it writing _Oh Say Can You See_.
And it got a bad rip in New Orleans
With Packingham and Jackson tuggin' at its seams."

"And it almost fell at the Alamo
Beside the Texas flag, but she waved on through.
She got cut with a sword at Chancellorsville
And she got cut again at Shiloh Hill.
There was Robert E. Lee, Beauregard, and Bragg,
And the south wind blew hard on that Ragged Old Flag."

"On Flanders Field in World War I
She got a big hole from a Bertha gun.
She turned blood red in World War II
She hung limp and low by the time it was through.
She was in Korea and Vietnam.
She went where she was sent by her Uncle Sam."

"She waved from our ships upon the briny foam,
And now they've about quit waving her back here at home.
In her own good land she's been abused --
She's been burned, dishonored, denied and refused."

"And the government for which she stands
Is scandalized throughout the land.
And she's getting threadbare and wearing thin,
But she's in good shape for the shape she's in.
'Cause she's been through the fire before
And I believe she can take a whole lot more."

"So we raise her up every morning,
Take her down every night.
We don't let her touch the ground
And we fold her up right.
On second thought I DO like to brag,
'Cause I'm mighty proud of that Ragged Old Flag."

Written by Johnny Cash

(good poem for a flag thread)


73 posted on 06/22/2006 11:27:55 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is, hitting what you aim at!)
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To: NeoCaveman
If it were a vote loser

It is a vote loser. The media drives debate by what the talk about on the TV. In November you will find out just how little the voters care about the topics covered by the media.

The RP should be focusing on energy. Getting refineries on line, drilling off the coasts, nuclear power...not on a flag burning amendment.
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74 posted on 06/22/2006 11:31:57 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
It is a vote loser. The media drives debate by what the talk about on the TV. In November you will find out just how little the voters care about the topics covered by the media.

This sounds like the gay marraige debate "oh no, they should be doing more important things" "they are wasting all this time" when it took, what one day?

The RP should be focusing on energy. Getting refineries on line, drilling off the coasts, nuclear power...not on a flag burning amendment.

As for energy, it takes 60 votes to accomplish anything. They don't have it. Chafee and DeWine are environmentalist whackos and the GOP probably doesn't want to expose them right now, since they are running for re-election.

75 posted on 06/22/2006 11:36:09 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (The Latest on the Ohio gov race http://blackwellvstrickland.blogspot.com)
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To: muawiyah
btw, lugsoul, when you are in a business partnership, and have joint ownership of property, you must respect the other partner's property rights anyway ~ you can't just start dragging off the contents of the stockroom and tossing them in the trash.

This is the argument the East German Communists used to prevent their people from crossing the Berlin Wall. They said the rest of the people had joint property rights in the education of the East German people who wanted to leave and they were therefore too valuable to let go to the West.

76 posted on 06/22/2006 11:37:03 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: IrishMike
I think flag-burning should be legal. Makes it easier to spot the enemy.
77 posted on 06/22/2006 11:44:53 AM PDT by AnnaZ (Victory at all costs-in spite of all terror-however long and hard the road may be-for survival)
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To: Mazda3Fan; lugsoul; IrishMike; agooga; tortoise; donmeaker; steve-b; FreedomCalls
Good work, everyone - apparently we taught muawiyah a lesson in Property Rights 101!

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78 posted on 06/22/2006 11:45:00 AM PDT by repentant_pundit (For the Sons and Daughters of Every Planet on the Earth)
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To: Uncle Vlad; Senator Pardek; dead
But wouldn't it be hilarious to see one of them accidentally set himself on fire when he tries to burn the flag?
There's a great picture of just such a thing somewhere...
79 posted on 06/22/2006 11:54:21 AM PDT by AnnaZ (Victory at all costs-in spite of all terror-however long and hard the road may be-for survival)
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To: muawiyah
You are clearly too much of a child to understand that it is you who is advocating the totalitarian, communistic position.

I am advocating freedom. You are advocating collectivist government control.

80 posted on 06/22/2006 12:01:19 PM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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