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Evolution: World science academies fight back against creationists
PhysOrg.com ^ | 21 June 2006 | Staff

Posted on 06/21/2006 8:33:46 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: Jedi Master Pikachu
Everybody has a religious belief.

I know this must be difficult for you to accept, but there are people willing to admit they don't know everything and probably never will. This is not a belief. It is humility.

141 posted on 06/21/2006 10:22:53 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: MineralMan

Your last name isn't McToober is it?


142 posted on 06/21/2006 10:23:31 AM PDT by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: MineralMan

You are right. Because if the only place children learned what they know was public school, more than 13% of the country would believe in a Godless creation of the universe (according to a recent survey in the Washington Times).


143 posted on 06/21/2006 10:23:51 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: TheBattman
Sorry - I may be close-minded - but here is the evidence I choose to follow:(Insert pretty picture of bible) .... If the Bible is wrong on creation - then it is not infallible and thus the whole thing can be considered of no use.

And you can prove that your bible is less a work of fiction than the thoery of evolution how?
144 posted on 06/21/2006 10:23:55 AM PDT by BritExPatInFla
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To: BaBaStooey
The idea here is that the religion being taught by the state is Darwinism. Other religions need not apply.

There are no other religions, just various mistaken beliefs

145 posted on 06/21/2006 10:23:59 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Soliphism explains so much I'm suprised everyone doesn't believe it.)
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To: BaBaStooey
The idea here is that the religion being taught by the state is Darwinism.

You have much to learn.

Here would be a good place to start:

http://www.talkorigins.org/

146 posted on 06/21/2006 10:24:05 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: stormer

"Your last name isn't McToober is it?"

Depends who's asking. You some kind of narc, or what?


147 posted on 06/21/2006 10:25:23 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Call me when you guys have faked another Piltdown man.


148 posted on 06/21/2006 10:25:27 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: Condorman
How about this for a wager: Define the scientific theory of evolution and then post your ONE BEST argument that reduces it to "folly." It should be instructive for everyone.

If you are asking me to demonstrate my intellect so that everyone may see that I am lacking, then it is as you say, I am not as smart as many here at FR or even on this thread. However, suffice it to say that evolution and creationism are both faiths. They are both incongruent and they are mutually exclusive.

149 posted on 06/21/2006 10:25:45 AM PDT by Obadiah (The beatings will continue until morale improves.)
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To: MineralMan
Perhaps the creating entity waved its appendages and this Big Bang occurred.

And perhaps His appendages were Noodly!

150 posted on 06/21/2006 10:25:51 AM PDT by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: RobRoy

Living things are designed, and we know a lot about the process of design. It is called natural selection.

If you wish to assert an alternative, you are free to do so, but asserting things were poofed into existence will not cut it in science. Certainly not after a century and a half of observing natural selection.


151 posted on 06/21/2006 10:26:48 AM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: MineralMan

Dave's not here, man!


152 posted on 06/21/2006 10:27:14 AM PDT by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: Condorman

"And perhaps His appendages were Noodly!"

I have no knowledge of such things. I am a non-sectarian atheist, along with being non-evangelical. "Whatever entity blows your dress up." That's my motto.


153 posted on 06/21/2006 10:28:32 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: stormer

"Dave's not here, man!"

Dave? Dave?

That's after my time, Dude.


154 posted on 06/21/2006 10:29:50 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: RadioAstronomer

Thank you for joining the discussion. What moves?


155 posted on 06/21/2006 10:29:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: BaBaStooey

Like I said. You have much to learn.


156 posted on 06/21/2006 10:30:28 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: js1138

Feel free to list all your observations.

On a slightly different note, the story of Piltdown Man is hilarious. Dropping a fake half-man, half-orangutan skull into the laps of Darwiniacs is kind of like dropping forged Texas Air National Guard documents into the middle of the CBS News World HQ. It just has to be true! It just has to be! Uhh, care to authenticate that? Why? Its gotta be true!


157 posted on 06/21/2006 10:31:25 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: MineralMan

"That's after my time, Dude."

Yeah, right.


158 posted on 06/21/2006 10:31:27 AM PDT by stormer (Get your bachelors, masters, or doctorate now at home in your spare time!)
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To: DungeonMaster
What? I don't believe in the Big Bang Theory any more than I believe in the Poof Theory. Both theories are unproven and essentially unprovable, given the scale of the issue. Maybe if I lived to be a million years old I might see something that would tip me one way or the other.

No one, and I mean NO ONE, knows how the first life occurred or how millions of different species of animal and plant life came into existence. The scientific mind relentlessly attempts to find out, and it's hard, hard work with meager results due to the nature of the extremely fragmentary evidence. The creationist mind doesn't seem to care much about investigating anything. After all, "(insert your deity here) did it, and that's that". P-r-e-t-t-y easy way to dispose of anything and everything one doesn't want to deal with or isn't interested in. Poof, it's here, poof, it's gone. No problems, no loose ends, no unanswered questions. Using that logic, there's no need to ever investigate murder or theft, because it's (insert your deity here)'s will.

I consider that the worst kind of intellectual bigotry and the worst waste of human intelligence. Heck, aeronautical engineers are still arguing about how airplane wings generate lift to keep the plane in the air. The subject is so technically difficult to work with that nobody yet has a rock solid answer that everyone agrees with. They keep trying to find out, though, and that's the definition of an open mind.

If I were to be condemned to death by stoning for heresy, I would much rather my heresy be agnosticism rather than fundamentalism.

159 posted on 06/21/2006 10:31:59 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: VadeRetro
For your edification and education:


160 posted on 06/21/2006 10:32:36 AM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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