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GOP candidate seeks Schwarzenegger's backing But governor may prefer Feinstein over conservative
SFGate.com ^ | 6/19/06 | John Wildermuth

Posted on 06/20/2006 8:52:46 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: 68 grunt

Well, silly! If you don't read 'em, no wonder you got it all wrong!!!

And if you don't read 'em, then why do you keep postin' to me???

:-)


81 posted on 06/20/2006 9:33:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: 68 grunt

Will you be voting for Mountjoy or Feinstein?

Poochigian or Jerry Brown?


82 posted on 06/20/2006 9:37:09 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
... And if you don't read 'em, then why do you keep postin' to me???

The only reason I post to you is to expose you. If you feel the exposure is a good thing, fine, I feel the same way.

83 posted on 06/20/2006 9:37:36 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: calcowgirl

I've said quite clearly, I'll never vote for any demoncrap again. My two mistakes were enough. I'd like to see your demoncrap party completely belittled and ultimately destroyed. I'd like to see it replaced with a Constitutional Party to combat the runaway 'liberal' infiltration within the GOP. Seeing the country based on the Constitution, dang, what a dream.


84 posted on 06/20/2006 9:41:07 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
The only reason I post to you is to expose you. If you feel the exposure is a good thing, fine, I feel the same way.

My posting record stands on its own, Grunt. No matter how much you want to name call and label, my posts demonstrate I'm 100% conservative. (Okay, maybe 95%, but conservative nonetheless. )

85 posted on 06/20/2006 9:47:54 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl
Well, then, as often as you have to defend yourself, you might want to think how your message is being 'misinterpreted'. Without evidence of that my opinion that you are a fifth columnist remains, as is.
86 posted on 06/20/2006 9:51:31 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

Now Dude , don't go soft on me here..


As much as I and you may differ on an individual or two in state politics, the thing that alarms me most is the move to the center by both parties in an attempt to somehow outdo or one-up each other in laying on the gravy all around to legal and illegal residents of this state and nation.

Ol' Everett Dirksen said it best, a million her and a million there and before ya know it, you're talking some serious money.

I think most politicians have lost sight of where that money comes from and how it is created and that they somehow instead have concocted mechanisms to get their hands on or take as much as they can get away with and then demand that they are not to be held accountable for their actions.

The Grace commission years ago revealed how much waste is present in gubamint as a whole. When you add the outright fraud and corruption inherent in social programs that exist for no other reason than to capture voter contingencies in order to create fiefdoms of loyal voters rather then to care for the truly needy and veterans and elderly, maybe you might see that I rail not just against the New Majority faction of the Ca GOP but the Rats as well, for they are all complicit in this charade, some by choice, others by association.

While my aim here is to try and educate and inform, I can see why some would see me as not being on the up and up or just a puddle splasher not caring who gets mud on them as I post away.

That's OK, it goes with the "job" if you will, which I see as going where the stink is and airing it out in the hope something better can be made of a bad situation or a pile of crap that everyone knows is there but no one wants to approach for fear it will contaminate them and they will be ostracized because they too may be accused of being the source of the stink rather than just another one wo discovered the pile by stepping in it.




87 posted on 06/20/2006 9:51:44 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: 68 grunt

I don't get it. You talked before about changing the GOP... About the Republican Renaissnace... About ridding it of pretty much everything for which it stood for. All of those posts say to me that you support the liberal infiltration, yet now you say you oppose it. If the latter is true, then why do you attack those of us who scream of runaway spending and borrowing, liberal judges, more environmental regulation, more gun regulation, etc?


88 posted on 06/20/2006 9:52:49 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: 68 grunt

I only defend myself as often as you and the small posse are around posting baseless allegations and childish slurs.


89 posted on 06/20/2006 9:59:51 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: 68 grunt

Interesting you should mention the Constitution Party, or at least a desire for a party that would adhere to all the basic precepts contained therein.

I have voted down tickets races a couple of times for a CP or AIP candidate, and of course , they didn't win. Did I feel my vote was wasted?
No.

I guess that elections today are in many instances, nothing more than a beauty contest, you can have the most intelligent candidate , well versed in law and such, yet he or she will not get anywhere because they share views that for many are now out of vogue or they look "funny". (Obviously not an issue for many elected dems today).


As you said earlier, it is a shame. and sadly a reality that is a tough nut to crack. In a way, it makes sense why things are so screwed up, voters are fickle and occupied with those things which they should be least concerned about when they vote in many elections, but that is the nature of the herd, you only need to turn them by startling them and then keep them moving quickly before they see the cliff ahead.

I fear we have gone thru much the same the last few years as a people. I hope I am wrong but am prepared either way for what may lie ahead.


90 posted on 06/20/2006 10:05:33 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Wanna help kick some liberal arse? It's not just a job here at FR, IT's an obsession.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What in the world do you mean ...I have no business posting on the CA threads? Who are you to tell anyone what they can or cannot post? Why do you think anonymous forums are so popular?

I don't play screw anyone, I make comments and express opinions, which everyone does. If you cannot handle someone saying that they admire a political figure for being able to make up their mind, then I pity you.


91 posted on 06/21/2006 5:56:03 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: 68 grunt; calcowgirl
I've said quite clearly, I'll never vote for any demoncrap again
I think you are a fifth columnist.
All negative, divider.

Consider this grunt:

The comments are appropriate for a GOP forum ... but you're not on a GOP forum. You're on a conservative forum.

Freepers do often attempt to confuse and divide the CAGOP base when the CAGOP is off the reservation, devoid of values, traditional principles and out of touch with its own platform. That's our responsibility. We are conservatives before we are members of any party.

The CAGOP is waaaay off the reservation and the most efficient way to get it back in touch with its principles and traditions is to help defeat it in November. Even jaded, moderate, pros like Sundheim won't keep shooting themselves in the foot.

Sundheim has a product to sell and if it fails in the market place, he'll change the product. Right now Sundheim's product is unpalatable to almost 1/3 of his market and he'll likely fail.

I'd like to help him fail ... ASAP.

92 posted on 06/21/2006 5:40:39 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
... Sundheim ...

I'd like to help him fail ... ASAP.

Thanks for reminding me that you're in the herd.

93 posted on 06/21/2006 8:29:04 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: NormsRevenge; FairOpinion
Arnold must think that endorsing the inevitable winner might against the sacrificial hapless unfunded lamb, might help his reelection effort. I think it is a mistake. Folks expect public figure politicians to endorse their party candidates, however pro forma that might be, and could care less. All this might do, is drive a few votes away from him, as an act of hubris, without gaining any other voters, who will have a good laugh, and observe the cynicism. I wonder what FO thinks of this tactic.
94 posted on 06/21/2006 10:26:56 PM PDT by Torie
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To: NormsRevenge; FairOpinion
Like most Californians, (Schwarzenegger) thinks Dianne Feinstein is a great senator,'' Schmidt said

Whatever. This RINO thinks Feinstein is an insecure and arid and air head put her finger in the wind, empty suit. Yes she is pleasant, and more pleasant than Boxer, but I admire Boxer more. In a word, Boxer has more substance than "that woman," and the above quote is a mouthful of something quite unpleasant. I wonder if FO thinks Feinstein is a "great senator." On this one, I suspect it is time for team Arnold to go into damage control, and thus my ping to the team player here.

95 posted on 06/21/2006 10:38:08 PM PDT by Torie
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To: 68 grunt
Yes. I'm proud to be a conservative. I'm not so proud to be a Republican.

I urge you to join me in defeating the moderates who have gained control of the CAGOP.

I urge you to join me in working to defeat registered Republican liberals like Schwarzenegger before they ruin the CAGOP and California.

I urge you to vote for conservatives in November regardless of party registration.

96 posted on 06/22/2006 1:15:03 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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