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Police: Homeowner shoots teen during burglary
The News-Journal (Longview, Texas) ^ | Monday, June 19, 2006 | Staff Reports

Posted on 06/19/2006 2:26:13 PM PDT by rw4site

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To: Riverman94610
Its no shock that punks come in all colors. However had these particular burglers been black or latino, since one of them was killed, the race would have mentioned...and mentioned and mentioned along with the usual victim portrayal. Maybe thats why he asked.
41 posted on 06/19/2006 4:33:35 PM PDT by D1X1E
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To: opinionator

I wasn't hoping for anything, but previous journalistic patterns usually dictate that no mention of that fact is a red flag for a possible un-PC "hate crime". I was just making that observation.

Do you want me to say that I'm glad that it was some white boys getting themselves into trouble? Thugs are thugs.


42 posted on 06/19/2006 4:53:53 PM PDT by Disambiguator (I'm not paranoid, just pragmatic.)
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To: dancer4life33; rw4site

Well, this should be interesting.


45 posted on 06/21/2006 3:29:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: dancer4life33
Kindly return to Democratic Underground Dot Com. I believe that you will find the fine upstanding ladies and gentlemen there to be much more friendly to your point of view than the ill educated troglodytes on Free Republic.

Also, I believe that you will find it easier to communicate with adults if you learn to write in complete sentences, and to spell correctly.

May God fill your life with His superabundant Grace.

Good Day.

47 posted on 06/21/2006 3:36:57 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: dancer4life33
i hope u understand i am sticking up for them b/c they were my friends

I doubt you even knew them, I think you are a troll. But just in case, you will be much better off in the long run if you choose friends who are not criminals. Find a better group to hang with!

48 posted on 06/21/2006 3:38:20 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: colorado tanker

It went bye-bye.


49 posted on 06/21/2006 3:43:18 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: dancer4life33
Obviously there is something more to the story, having said that, even your posts here admit that several folks were going to break into this house. I wonder if you were aware before hand and whether you did anything to dissuade these folks from going through with their plans? I believe it will be difficult going for the shooter if the alleged preps were not inside the domicile, and I believe the alleged preps will have the hard time if they were inside. The bottom line is it won't matter one whit to the dead one.
50 posted on 06/21/2006 3:44:13 PM PDT by thinkthenpost
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To: ArrogantBustard
So that's why I smell ozone! LOL!

That's OK. Troll isn't very tasty.

51 posted on 06/21/2006 3:45:17 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Disambiguator
Do you want me to say that I'm glad that it was some white boys getting themselves into trouble?

I'm actually hoping you'll stop asking the question, as if the answer makes a bit of difference.

52 posted on 06/21/2006 3:45:24 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: rw4site

___________________________________________________________________________
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/docs/PE/content/htm/pe.002.00.000009.00.htm

SUBCHAPTER D. PROTECTION OF PROPERTY

§ 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY. (a) A person
in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is
justified in using force against another when and to the degree the
actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to
prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful
interference with the property.
(b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible,
movable property by another is justified in using force against the
other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force
is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the
property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit
after the dispossession and:
(1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no
claim of right when he dispossessed the actor; or
(2) the other accomplished the dispossession by using
force, threat, or fraud against the actor.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or
recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to
protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON'S PROPERTY. A person
is justified in using force or deadly force against another to
protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if,
under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the
actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force
or deadly force to protect his own land or property and:
(1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful
interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or
criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property; or
(2) the actor reasonably believes that:
(A) the third person has requested his protection
of the land or property;
(B) he has a legal duty to protect the third
person's land or property; or
(C) the third person whose land or property he
uses force or deadly force to protect is the actor's spouse, parent,
or child, resides with the actor, or is under the actor's care.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.


§ 9.44. USE OF DEVICE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. The
justification afforded by Sections 9.41 and 9.43 applies to the use
of a device to protect land or tangible, movable property if:
(1) the device is not designed to cause, or known by
the actor to create a substantial risk of causing, death or serious
bodily injury; and
(2) use of the device is reasonable under all the
circumstances as the actor reasonably believes them to be when he
installs the device.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
Amended by Acts 1975, 64th Leg., p. 913, ch. 342, § 6, eff. Sept.
1, 1975. Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994.

____________________________________________________________________________________


53 posted on 06/21/2006 3:50:52 PM PDT by BigDaddyTX (Don't Mex with Texas)
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Update..... via email from my sister. Check the links. It's amazing how our local media are jumping on the political correct view about these "Good boys."

My sister's email below, I hope the formatting is good.

....>>>Below are the web pages for the Longview News Journal on the report of the incident with James protecting their home..the paper yesterday listed Lorrie and James as the owners of the home where the break in and shooting occurred...I have written to all of the local news sources to inform them of the character of James and telling my anger that the boys are being made to look like innocent and the parents are trying to place the blame on James instead of themselves and the boys--what kind of parent lets good boys roam all night at that age ???!!!   what I wrote to the news is below.....I have heard from 3 of them...I told them that I didn't want to harm the case by my statements being publicized  but thought if they knew the character of James they might do some digging and report on their own along with digging up the boys past also....and we hear that one of the boys had to go to another school because he got into trouble at one school...it is not in the best interest of the case or James and Lorrie to imply that he shot and to also give the names....since the police have not yet named him or listed him as actually having fired the shots, this is what one news person told me .....and I don't want to cause any more distress to the grieving families.... .so I don't want to have my comments published at this time and maybe never unless by some freak of judgement James would happen to be charged ..  
 
http://www.news-journal.com/news/content/news/stories/06212006ParadeFollow.html
 
http://www.news-journal.com/news/content/news/stories/06212006Houghton.html
 
 
From: Removed
Date: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 08:15:59
To: plitterski@longview-news.com; jelizondo@longview-news.com; awalker@longview-news.com
Cc: blenertz@cbs19.tv; lledford@nbc56.com
Subject: Parade of Homes owner shooting intruders
 
 Re: the Parade of Homes owner shooting intruders.
 After reading this mornings report of the mother and others I am deeply concerned that the fact is being overlooked that these supposedly "good boys" were out at that time of night and at the age when responsible parents should have seen to it that the sons were at home after a curfew and home rules that is not the late hours of night or the wee hours of the morning.  Parents should not be trying to shift the blame for the lack of control they should have over these "good" sons.  I do feel for the loss of the boy, but at the same time the blame should not be on the home ownerParents need to be parents !!!!!  Is it not possible that when the boys heard movement in the house that was maybe as the finger was on the trigger and very possible/probable that the owner was shooting away from them to scare them off and firing  away from where they were and they at the same moment they turned to run which sadly was into the line of fire resulting in the back shooting ???!!! It seems to be a popular trend to blame others for our transgressions....
 I am concerned that in reading this mornings paper and hearing  news comments from the boys mother and the slant the news seems to be following, the marks of a man of integrity, honesty, compassion and concern may help you to understand that James Pitre is no heartless, cold, hard, careless,  out to get you man. I personally know and have known him for over 25 years. He is one of the most conscientious, caring, compassionate  men I know...in the years since his salvation, in his adulthood, he has been passionately involved in the ministry of our Lord in different capacities. As a one on one, hands on, in the jail ministry, in community, area, home, church and foreign  mission trips to reach others for Christ while at the same time realizing there are material and medical needs that need to be met and  providing the needs as our Lord showed us. Many times these needs are/were met  from his own private family income. When I speak of James, please know that his wife  is of same character and heart, The young daughter who they adopted is Mayan, one of numerous children from one family he came across who the single mother was not able to care for and he and his wife began the process for adoption.  At the same time James provided home,  appliances/furnishings  which would make it easier on the mother and other family members.  He continues to see that she is provided for and does not live in squalor. The young daughter is now in the second grade and is a delight to know and to her family.  James also has grown children and grandchildren who love and support him in his passion.  They are all a very dedicated moral Christian family.  He worked in a local power plant working his way up to supervision, until the business of his wife seemed to be where he felt  he was needed. Her business had prospered  by her providing quality honest, dependable work . This is a characteristic of that family, realizing they are accountable to God for how they treat people. In light of his firm faith and beliefs and moral character he and his family are torn terribly by this tragedy and loss of life....because of his belief that God created man and man is precious to Him. He and his family  need our prayers in this, along with prayers for the families of the young boys and for these boys to turn their lives around to being young men who are living admirable lives and upstanding citizens of the community.
These young people were/are old enough to know that what they were doing is criminal and wrong.  I do not believe for a minute that this is just a sudden one time lawless event in their lives.  They just got caught this time.  And it is foolish for the relatives of these boys to think that they would tell them the truth about their criminal activities..They are NOT good boys !!!  Good boys/girls do not do things like this. When will we  all wake up and begin to realize that we are accountable for the actions in  our lives. 

Mrs. name removed




God Bless, with love,

Sis/Mom/Ganny

54 posted on 06/21/2006 5:00:48 PM PDT by rw4site (Little men want Big Government!)
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