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Unleashing the Wrath of Stay-at-Home Moms [feminist screed - on Father's Day]
The Washington Post ^ | June 18, 2006 | Linda R. Hirshman

Posted on 06/18/2006 11:03:54 AM PDT by Heatseeker

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To: IVote2


I work because I love to work and I don't have children. But, it is NONE OF HER DAMN BUSINESS if I want to stay at home and do nothing!



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Excerpt: 'Get to Work'

June 13, 1006— Author Linda R. Hirshman doesn't believe that staying home leads to a good life for women.

For too long, she says, women have been forced to return to the home because of limited support from their husbands and the government, but mostly to maintain the 'illusion" that they have a choice.


http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Books/story?id=2067008&page=1


61 posted on 06/18/2006 12:56:37 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Politicalmom
I am frustrated and exhausted much of the time and certainly not rich. I will take my life over hers anytime. : )

Good for you! I went to nursing school when my youngest started kindergarten, then worked prn/part-time nights... until both kids were grown and out of the house, so I could be there with them.

I am divorced now and going for the career aspect which I love. I have great kids and grandchildren who bless me continually.... so the sacrifices were well worth it!

62 posted on 06/18/2006 1:07:35 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Linda R. Hirshman:

I'm a philosopher, and it's a philosopher's job to tell people how they should lead their lives.

The mommyblogs vilified me as a single, childless, bitter loser; the feminists claimed women weren't quitting; and a chorus of other voices didn't care what I said -- criticizing women just wasn't allowed. A handful of political thinkers did concede that I had raised the biggest issue left for feminism -- justice in the family -- but it was definitely a minority report.

a new generation of women is coming of age, and the backlash pushing women home is so last year.

A lot of the fundamentalism behind the stay-at-home mom movement is overt

But a lot of it is covert, such as the identity of the authors of manuals disguised as tips on frugal housekeeping, but actually proselytizing women to stay home, as the Bible suggests.

There was no chance that I was going to shut up. I'm retired. If I'm not going to raise hard questions for women, who will?

Linda R. Hirshman, a retired professor of philosophy

63 posted on 06/18/2006 1:14:52 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Shrews can be tamed. Harpy comes to mind.
1. (Gr. Myth.) A fabulous winged monster, ravenous and filthy, having the face of a woman and the body of a vulture, with long claws, and the face pale with hunger.

64 posted on 06/18/2006 1:17:53 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Heatseeker

Another Marxist trollop cruising academia's back alleys for her Slick Willy.


65 posted on 06/18/2006 1:19:15 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Black & Decker: China's # 1 Broken-in-the-Box manufacturer.)
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To: kcvl
The mommyblogs vilified me as a single, childless, bitter loser

Sounds like the mommyblogs hit a little to close to home!

66 posted on 06/18/2006 1:23:34 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: bvw
Shrews can be tamed. Harpy comes to mind.

LOL! I bet Cindy Sheehan has been to her house for dinner more than once.

67 posted on 06/18/2006 1:25:13 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: sergeantdave

Hirshman bluntly acknowledges the failure of feminism by pointing to one phenomenon. Many educated women are rejecting successful careers to become mothers and embrace the domesticity that Betty Friedan compared to animal life and a Nazi concentration camp in her 1953 bestseller The Feminine Mystique. How did this happen? In a word, choice is to blame.

"[L]iberal feminists abandoned the judgmental starting point…in favor of offering women 'choices'. The choice talk spilled over from…'abortion', and it provided an irresistible solution to feminists trying to duck the mommy wars. A woman could work, stay home, have 10 children or one, marry or stay single. It all counted as 'feminist' as long as she chose it."

Hirshman dismisses what she calls "choice feminism." Instead, she argues for a return to "a judgmental starting point" by which incorrect choices are to be shunned, choices like the traditional role of wife and mother.

Hirshman writes, "Now the glass ceiling begins at home. Although it is harder to shatter a ceiling that is also the roof over your head, there is no other choice."



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68 posted on 06/18/2006 1:25:27 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: operation clinton cleanup

The women and their husbands seem happy, so why should we care? Hirshman asks. "We care because what they do is bad for them, is certainly bad for society, and is widely imitated, even by people who never get their weddings in the Times." Given that "the real glass ceiling is at home," Hirshman argues that feminism should have been more radical in its aims. "It changed the workplace but it didn't change men, and, more importantly, it didn't fundamentally change how women related to men." (As if!) And, "feminists must acknowledge that the family is to 2005 what the workplace was to 1964 and the vote to 1920."


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69 posted on 06/18/2006 1:29:11 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: jimbo123
Photo of the author here. Not for viewers with weak stomachs...
Bet she's great in the sack ;)
70 posted on 06/18/2006 1:33:36 PM PDT by freedom moose (has de cultivar el que sembres)
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To: freedom moose
Bet she's great in the sack ;)

I think she prefers to fly solo, maybe or maybe not by choice.

71 posted on 06/18/2006 1:40:38 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: jimbo123

LOL, not going to finish reading this thread to see what this lady's problem is. One picture is worth a thousand words. Somebody has a bad case of sour grapes. One week at home with small children would make her change her tune. Full time mothering and housekeeping does require an intellect along with good people skills, organizational skills, financial management skills, an ability to multi-task, tremendous patience and resilience. It's not a job for wimps.


72 posted on 06/18/2006 1:43:27 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: Heatseeker

"But I'm a philosopher, and it's a philosopher's job to tell people how they should lead their lives."

Who could read another word after this? STFU bitch. Philospher my behind!


73 posted on 06/18/2006 1:46:09 PM PDT by jocon307 (The Silent Majority - silent no longer)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Let me fix that for you....

"...it's a LIBERAL philosopher's job to tell people how they should lead their lives."

They know best, as they keep telling us.


74 posted on 06/18/2006 1:47:08 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: kcvl
"I work because I love to work and I don't have children. But, it is NONE OF HER DAMN BUSINESS if I want to stay at home and do nothing!"

Work is good for the soul, whether it is in the workplace or at home, but you are correct. It is YOUR life and YOUR decision what you do with it even if it is to do nothing.

Liberals never want anyone to have the freedom they demand for themselves. Since they are the enlightened people, they feel they have the right to tell the rest of us what we can do, think, eat or if they had their way whether we deserve to be born or die.

Have a great day kcvl.

Jen

75 posted on 06/18/2006 1:49:04 PM PDT by IVote2 ( God Bless our military men and women! Thank you for your service.)
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To: IVote2

This ignorant witch hasn't got enough brains to tell people how to wipe their butts much less how to live their lives.
I'm a father who worked and raised two daughters alone. There isn't a man or woman alive who can educate me on what it takes to be a full time parent. Her attitude shows just how little she values the lives of children.
She needs to take a long walk off of a high cliff.


76 posted on 06/18/2006 1:54:45 PM PDT by oldenuff2no
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I didn't need to read it. I read the first two paragraphs and that was quite enough. Do we have rules now here on Free Republic as to what we have to do before we post? I don't think so.

I now have read the entire article. It was a waste of time as I knew it would be

Have a nice day.

Jen


77 posted on 06/18/2006 1:55:34 PM PDT by IVote2 ( God Bless our military men and women! Thank you for your service.)
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To: backinthefold
God bless you, your husband and family!

I, myself, am single (no children), and probably will remain so for many reasons...but you describe how I would have treated a husband and children!

All said...there has been much progress for women in the workplace since I started out...and since I have to take care of myself, I am glad for it! I hope everyone would be glad for your daughters, as well!

78 posted on 06/18/2006 2:01:35 PM PDT by paulat
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To: Heatseeker

Families with moms who work full time in lower paying jobs for themselves outside of the home are more likely to become divorced families that stay poor. Whole families with moms who work only for their whole families are more likely to stay together and become wealthier.

So what are the costs of that "our family against theirs" economic struggle?

The more moms working full time outside of their homes, the larger and cheaper the labor pool remains, the more that continuing social programs are maintained and funded, the more pollution (two or more cars, homes, heating furnaces,...),...


79 posted on 06/18/2006 2:11:07 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you're with us, or your with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: oldenuff2no

Kudos to you Oldenuff! You are correct, she has no clue what children need and as you say, she neither values the children nor their parents.

I don't post often, this woman just ticked me off today. Of all days for the Post to publish this tripe.

Happy Father's Day Oldenenuff!


80 posted on 06/18/2006 2:21:28 PM PDT by IVote2 ( God Bless our military men and women! Thank you for your service.)
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