The North American Union "matrix"

eco-logic Powerhouse ^ | June 15, 2006 | Steven Yates

[madfly]

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[conservativewasp]

This seems a little paranoid.

[madfly]

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[sageb1]

"This seems a little paranoid."

Maybe. Maybe not. Most likely not. The CFR did actually post goals such as these on its website. Perhaps it is supposed to be an answer to the EU. However, I've always found that the best laid plans do go astray. Individualism (both noble and insane types) throw wrenches into the works and American is still nationalistic enough to protest such plans. We nationalistic types also have friends in Canada, as well as many liberal Canadians who dislike us enough to work against it. ;)

[Wuli]

You speak the truth, even though it must hurt many conservatives to admit it, due to the many other points at which we, conservatives, think we support Bush on other issues and for good reasons.

I think it would not be dishonest, at this point, to question if there has been, a more frequent disconnect between WHY WE have supported some other policies of Bush and possibly WHY he wanted them.

[sageb1]

Thanks for the timeline.

[texastoo]

Hi, I haven't seen you around here for a while. Welcome back. This is a good article

The North American Cooperative Security Act is sponsored by Senator Lugar and Representative Katherine Harris. Both Republicans but not conservatives.

[madfly]

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[stephenjohnbanker]

"" So, whatever 'proposals' he offers, whether to safeguard our Southern border, or to do anything else, are bound to be as contentless and full of doubletalk as what I've quoted above. Any attempt to put them into practice will be effectively gutted ""

This has been the modus operandi for 5 years. It will not change. Bush will not relent unless stopped by the House.

[conservativewasp]

Still seems a litle paranoid but I'll keep an eye on it. I'm with you on the nationalism, this wouldn't fly here.

[calcowgirl]

...Bush's speech was contrived as an appearance of intent to do something to protect our Southern border, when in fact, Bush wants to do nothing...

If one looks back on the supposedly strong statements made by many politicians (i.e. "we need to secure our borders"), there has often been a secondary theme that focuses on "Security" only. After reading many of the above cited documents, from SPP and others, that theme is obvious. The effort to secure the borders is focusing on terrorists, drug traffickers, and criminal gangs (e.g. MS13) only. There seems to be little concern over the hordes of illegal aliens crossing the border "for jobs" who are leaning on society to house, feed, and provide education and medical care to their families at the expense of United States taxpayers. Not to mention the huge percentages that occupy our jails and prisons, also at taxpayer expense.

[ghostrider]

I believe that all 3 Presidents after Reagan were/are simply figureheads representing the interests of the financial syndicates that control our politicians. During this time, they have "bought" our politicians with "contributions." These politicians have stacked our courts with their appointees, and our Constitutional form of government has for all practical purposes been overthrown. The United States today operates like the old style European monarchies, with a privileged class operating with impunity against the will of the people.

[madfly]

http://eco.freedom.org/el/20060602/carlteichrib.shtml
The Globalization Strategy:
America and Europe in the Crucible
By Carl Teichrib June 15, 2006

"The fact is that building a Third Wave civilization on the wreckage of Second Wave institutions involves the design of new, more appropriate political structures in many nations at once. This is a painful, yet necessary project that is mind-staggering in scope..."

"In all likelihood, it will require a protracted battle to radically overhaul the United States Congress, the House of Commons and the House of Lords, the French Chamber of Deputies, the Bundestag, the Diet, the giant ministries and entrenched civil services of many nations, their Constitutions and court system – in short, much of the unwieldy and increasingly unworkable apparatus of existing representative governments."

"Nor will this wave of political struggle stop at the national level. Over the months and decades ahead, the entire "global law machine" – from the United Nations at one end, to the local city or town council at the other – will eventually face a mounting, ultimately irresistible demand for restructuring."

"All of these structures will have to be fundamentally altered, not because they are inherently evil, or even because the are controlled by this or that class or group, but because they are increasingly unworkable – no longer fitting to the needs of a radically changing world."

Can't you hear it? That's the sound of the crucible of globalization being fired up.

[madfly]

thanks! good to see you too..

[madfly]

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[american spirit]

Great stuff and IMO at lot of what's coming at us will be implemeted at the local levels with the usual city hall and countygov hacks "doing just what they're told". Right now, with the plethora of codes, regulations, rules, etc. being thrust upon us by these folks their mandate seems to be to either exert as much control over us as they can OR extract as many $ as possible from us. This battle can be won at the local level by folks who are educated and pi$$ed off enough to say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!

[No.6]

This CFR illuminist global conspiracy theory gets wierder and wierder... now it's the Real Matrix?

If I take the Red Pill can I punch through walls and dodge bullets too, or when I'm ready will I not have to?