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NO TO THE FLAG BURNING AMENDMENT!
Nealz Nuze ^
| 6/15/2006
| Neal Boortz
Posted on 06/15/2006 5:34:06 AM PDT by steve-b
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:34:08 AM PDT
by
steve-b
To: steve-b
That last paragraph says it all.
Our Elite Political Class has flipped us a fish.
Of course it's inedible.
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:35:55 AM PDT
by
FerdieMurphy
(For English, Press One. (Tookie, you won the Pulitzer and Nobel prizes. Oh, too late.))
To: steve-b
Neal who?
And why should I care.
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:36:07 AM PDT
by
Dane
("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
To: steve-b
This one will be popular here. After all its only a "symbol".
Idiot
To: FerdieMurphy
Our Elite Political Class has flipped us a fish. No -- a bird.
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:37:04 AM PDT
by
steve-b
(Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
To: steve-b
Your anti-dote to my thread? I don't wish you any luck. ;o)
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:39:02 AM PDT
by
pissant
To: steve-b
My first reaction when reading the headline was why bother. There is such little integrity in Washington if if they won't follow legal laws and high standards, why should I follow any laws.
Sorry, I have a bad case of DRA (dirty rotten attitude) this morning...........might be terminal.
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:40:03 AM PDT
by
PeterPrinciple
(Seeking the truth here folks.)
To: Dane
And why should I care.
___________
Your comment is a perfect bookend to this story ... the political class counts on the apathy of the large majority of Americans.
Fire up the base, but without actually having to do anything substantial or meaningful, given that most don't seem to care one way or another.
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:46:39 AM PDT
by
dmz
To: steve-b
If we do not burn our flags how are we supposed to disposed of them honorably?
I realize my question has nothing to do with the issues of the article, that congress is not taking up the real issues of the day. However is is my question, the day after flag day.
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:47:19 AM PDT
by
Talking_Mouse
(Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
To: steve-b
"It's a hideously bad idea, and what we see in Washington is politicians simply pandering to the base emotions, if not the outright ignorance, of the American people. Instead of making the tough choices on items such as government spending, immigration, tax reform and returning our economic liberties, these political hacks are spending time on this nonsense. What's next? An amendment banning speech that others may find offensive? That's where we're headed if this nonsense isn't nipped in the bud."
I agree. This is nothing but cynical election year politics. They know it has no chance of passing. They know that flag burning is a tiny, tiny, tiny problem at best in this country. But they think this red meat issue could help steer ignorant people into the voting booth come November. It really is insulting how little the party elites think of the base and our intelligence.
Beyond that the whole amendment is pointless. For one thing flag burning is not a problem in this country. Can anyone recall the last time he was walking down the street and ran into someone burning a flag? Can anyone recall the last time you heard about this happening in your town? I am a libertarian and an opponent of unnecessary government encroachment on freedom of any type and of the growth of the nanny state. Flag burning is offensive to me but I don't have a right to avoid being offended. I believe in a pretty high threshold that any government imposed reduction in rights of expression or speech must reach and this doesn't come close to reaching it. Being able to tolerate all kinds of expression and all kinds of offensive expression is one of the things that proves the strength of our system and makes it the best in the world. When I think of countries that would pass a measure such as this flag burning amendment I think of insecure dictatorial states like Red China and Saddam's Iraq, not a strong democratic state like ours.
To: steve-b
I agree with Neal as well as with Justice Scalia, who knows the value of protecting free speech.
On the other hand if I saw someone defiling the flag...I would risk arrest for battery and attempt to knock the offender senseless.
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:53:49 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
To: steve-b
An amendment banning speech that others may find offensive?We don't need an amendment for that. It's already in force.
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:53:58 AM PDT
by
FreePaul
To: Vaquero
On the other hand if I saw someone defiling the flag...I would risk arrest for battery and attempt to knock the offender senseless. That's another reason this whole "amendment" foolishness is without merit. We already have the necessary legal doctrine for the problem -- jury nullification.
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posted on
06/15/2006 5:57:27 AM PDT
by
steve-b
(Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
To: Vaquero
To burn the American flag in an act of anger or protest is despicable.
But hundreds of thousands of Americans died to ensure your right to do just that.
Don't forget that.
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posted on
06/15/2006 6:00:15 AM PDT
by
DCPatriot
("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
To: DCPatriot
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posted on
06/15/2006 6:08:29 AM PDT
by
Vaquero
("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
To: steve-b
Banning flag burning will do far more damage to the flag than any flame could ever do.
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posted on
06/15/2006 6:24:06 AM PDT
by
Diggler
To: steve-b
Indeed! Senate, please get back to work and forget these inane election year ploys.
To: MACVSOG68
Indeed. These guys are like professional wrestlers, only more lowbrow.
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posted on
06/15/2006 9:24:56 AM PDT
by
steve-b
(Hoover Dam is every bit as "natural" as a beaver dam.)
To: steve-b
And I believe that using the flag in a purely political tug-o-war is no different than spitting on it or burning it.
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posted on
06/15/2006 1:44:41 PM PDT
by
LDO4CNO
To: Dane
Who's Dane and why should we care?
Is your hatred so visceral that you can't even read the article and understand the point that he makes?
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posted on
06/15/2006 2:21:45 PM PDT
by
Badray
(CFR my ass. There's not too much money in politics. There's too much money in government hands.)
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