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Injured Reno Judge popular target for angry parents (fathers' rights v. judicial tyrrany?)
LasVegas Sun/AP ^ | 6/12/06 | Angie Wagner

Posted on 06/14/2006 4:23:59 AM PDT by ProCivitas

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To: Pompah

I am deeply saddened, deeply I tell you, that yet another lie-yar has been shot. Oh the humanity!


81 posted on 06/14/2006 12:10:11 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: ProCivitas

This guy may well have been a creep and deserving of removal from the bench (though not being shot).

That said, even an honest, ethical family court judge (there must be one or two of them out there) necessarily has to piss off at least half of the litigants that come before him. Sounds like a no-win situation to me.


82 posted on 06/14/2006 12:10:41 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Lurker

Now, now. We can't criticize this judge - after all, he was injured. I refer to you the case of Ann Coulter v. the Jersey Girls.


83 posted on 06/14/2006 12:11:57 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: no dems
However, I do know people who have been wrongly accused AND ABUSED by Family Court Judges; their lives and families totally destroyed.

I have been married for 15 years. The two things that irritate me most about my husband were clearly apparent on our first date. I certainly didn't see these incidents as the glaring, bright red warning signs that they should have been.

Is this what is happening in most marriages (in your experience)? Or are people REALLY flipping out and acting out of character?

84 posted on 06/14/2006 12:14:47 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Orbiting_Rosie's_Head
When the investigation is complete, and abuse allegations are found to be false, disbar the lawyers presenting them and throw the accuser in jail. In other words, if you make the allegation, you'd better have proof.

Most allegations simply can't be proven false to the reasonable doubt standard that would be needed to put a false accuser in jail. They may simply be no evidence one way or another. If a mother claims that the father fondled the child, for instance, and the charge isn't proven, but you also can't prove affirmatively that she made it up, what do you do. Again, there is a balance- if the allegations are not believed but later turn out to be false, then the judge gets blamed because something happened to the child.

85 posted on 06/14/2006 12:26:46 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: MEGoody
I believe that any person involved in a divorce who makes allegations of abuse, unfit parenting, etc they cannot prove (or are later proven false) should experience whatever they were trying to foist on their spouse, e.g. loss of visitation/custody, payment of child support and/or alimoney.

So let's say that you suspect your ex-spouse of using drugs, but you can't prove it. You should lose all visitation because you couldn't prove something to be true? I think that if it can be proven that you made the allegations knowing them to be false, in order to gave custody, then you should lose automatically and further sanctions (i.e. financial, or criminal) should be used. But many things that are true may or may not be able to be proven to the standard that the court requires.

Keep in mind that denial of all visitation don't just punish the parent, but the child as well.

86 posted on 06/14/2006 12:38:42 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
you think the wife should have been punished for her husband's multiple infidelities?

If she caused them, then hell yes.

87 posted on 06/14/2006 8:05:16 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: LWalk18
. You should lose all visitation because you couldn't prove something to be true?

If you can't prove the truth of an accusation, you have no right to make it in the first place. That's how it works in criminal court, and that's how it should work in family court.

88 posted on 06/14/2006 8:09:14 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: BlazingArizona
If she caused them, then hell yes.

How does a wife "cause" her husband to cheat? And I'm sure you believe this applies when the sexes are reversed, that somehow a husband can cause his wife to cheat?

89 posted on 06/14/2006 8:12:57 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: Dianna

Both!


90 posted on 06/14/2006 8:55:03 PM PDT by no dems ("Mr. President: Put up that wall.")
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To: BlazingArizona
If she caused them, then hell yes.

?????

How does a wife cause her husband's infidelities?

91 posted on 06/14/2006 9:50:27 PM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Lurker

Divorce INDUSTRY attracts lots of whores. 'Nuff said.


92 posted on 06/14/2006 10:04:31 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: LWalk18
So let's say that you suspect your ex-spouse of using drugs, but you can't prove it.

If you suspect it but can't prove it, then don't bring it up in a custody battle.

You should lose all visitation because you couldn't prove something to be true?

If you make the allegation in the custody battle, but you can't prove it, yes.

Keep in mind that denial of all visitation don't just punish the parent, but the child as well.

Exactly, and that's the reason for my stance. It's far too easy to make allegations that you don't have to substantiate in a divorce proceeding. That needs to stop.

93 posted on 06/15/2006 6:24:15 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: LWalk18
Most allegations simply can't be proven false to the reasonable doubt standard that would be needed to put a false accuser in jail. They may simply be no evidence one way or another. If a mother claims that the father fondled the child, for instance, and the charge isn't proven, but you also can't prove affirmatively that she made it up, what do you do. Again, there is a balance- if the allegations are not believed but later turn out to be false, then the judge gets blamed because something happened to the child.

If a charge is not adequately provable, but nonetheless plausible, then don't act against either the accuser or the accused. But if the accuser can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have been lying, throw the book at 'em.

94 posted on 06/16/2006 6:41:45 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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