Posted on 06/13/2006 4:51:14 AM PDT by Buffettfan
That might come as a bit of a suprise to Gen. Pervez Musharraf, Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki, and King King Abdullah II of Jordan.
So, how do you propose to fight a war against all of Islam?
The same way you fight against all of the Third Reich - superior air power, a superior navy, artillery, troops, and a couple Pattons leading them all.
No, we're not. That's the problem here. The enemy has been misassessed.
Bush, with help and support from many others, has tried to pick and choose which muslims "aren't good." Well, this just in, but that's impossible. There are many millions upon tens and likely hundreds of millions of muslims worldwide, that support the militant side of Islam. But we just have no clue where they are/live. Many live right in this country and it's not "just a few" as the buzz phrase that gets tossed around. It's legion.
Zarqawi didn't create Islam, Islam created him. It will also have created "his successor." It has also created all of the 17 in Toronto, the 19 for 911, and the list can go on, and on, and on, ...!
This news should reveal how non-serious we truly are about this WOT. It's all at the political level where practicality takes a back seat to perceptions.
Honestly, if I were a Marine, I'd seriously be thinking WTF!! I might even ask for a premature release based on this somehow. If the country's not going to be serious about this war, then why should they?
The biggest issue at work here however is that apparent glaring lack of understanding. The alternative is something much worse.
Why don't we simply hand the Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia the keys to our government too while we're at it! Eh George! What in Islam doctrine goes over so many peoples' heads that it simply isn't compatable with our U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and withholds the very freedom of religion and freedom of speech that are the two most basic premises of our entire way of life!
I have another idea too, let's erect a statue of Adolf Hitler somewhere too. Why stop here, now! In fact, how about a statue of Saddam Hussein on the Capitol Steps! Or Zarqawi in front of the Supreme Court! Let's really "reach out" here and grab both of our ankles with a 55-gallon drum of vaseline behind us.
I'm just wondering when it will finally become blatantly clear that we've done the wrong thing here, and what the ramifications will be by then.
That wasn't an answer.
How do you define victory in a war against all of Islam? What is the desired end state?
I couldn't agree more. This is outrageous and is why we have to kick these lifer pols out of office. This kind of thing will eventually destroy America.
There's a difference between "fighting a war against all of Islam" and inviting Islam into your nation with a red carpet.
Let me ask you, do you see anything problematic with Islam, at all?
OK. So, how would you correct this problem?
If you're saying we're supposed to fight a war against all of Islam, then what does victory look like?
Weird. You would think that Marine Corps training and Muslim faith would be in direct conflict.
We are not at war with all of Islam- we are at war with Islamic Extremism.
I can't believe that people sitting on their asses at home safe behind their monitors and keyboard would deny Marines the same priviledge.
I think we were posting simultaneously.
Anyway, OK, let's debate. I don't have too long now however, so let's move as quickly as possible.
Do you see anything problematic with Islam? Anything at all?
Nice effort to duck the question. I'm not answering your question until you answer mine. I'll repeat it for you. How do you propose to fight a war against all of Islam? What would victory look like?
We should be but we are not. Don't give any of us the moderate vs radical crap. Based upon the deafening silence from the nonexistent moderates ALL of Is-Slime is slime.
This country has become a prime example of the parent who can't bring himself to tell his child "NO" on anything.
We are not at war with all of Islam- we are at war with Islamic Extremism.
Are you even aware of what the doctrines of Islam are as laid out by Mohammed in the Koran?
What's the big deal?? I build shrines to islime several times a day. Of course I always wipe my koranus afterwards.
I asked a simple question. Why do you go out of your way to avoid answering it?
OK, so what does victory in a war against all of Islam look like?
That wasn't an answer.
How do you define victory in a war against all of Islam? What is the desired end state?
Yes, it was an answer, albeit one you don't like.
Desired end? Complete capitulation.
If you don't play to win, don't play. This isn't a squabble over land, it's the destruction of OUR religion, culture, and civilization.
Keep in mind, WE did'nt start this, it's been going on for a long, long time, and their desired end is well known.
To keep that from happening, they need to change, or be destroyed.
Capiche?
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