Posted on 06/06/2006 8:04:48 PM PDT by radar101
Another example illustrating that service doesn't do much for smarts.
I'd be very interested in any legal authority you could point me to that holds that the geographic location of a military camp can serve a probable cause for holding a corpman in solitary confinement. I don't believe any such authority exists, but I will be more than willing to eat my words if you can come up with a case or code section that says so.
No, that stuff was after my time. I was just a cook. About the most danger I was ever in was when I managed to start a grease fire.
"No, that stuff was after my time."
Goodness - you predate me in Nam?
My hat is off and I bow down.
Thank you for your service.
And I will, once again, say what I said before.
It is not probable cause in and of itself, but it is a factor that the commander may need to weigh. Ultimately, it comes down to the commander's decision, and he will ultimately answer for it.
don't believe any such authority exists, but I will be more than willing to eat my words if you can come up with a case or code section that says so.
The authority is the commanding officer's authority, which is granted to ensure good order and discipline within his command. Yes, he can made the decision to put someone in solitary confinement, even before charges are filed. Yes, he must cite his reasons. Yes, that decision is subject to review by the commanding officer's seniors in the chain of command.
Like I said, someone who was involved is talking.
Or solitary confinement is necessary to ensure that he stays around for the trial.
This kind of confinement doesn't have anything to do with him being an escape risk.You don't walk a prisoner around the recreation yard with chains because you are afraid he's going to escape.They might do it if he was assaulting everyone or trying to kill himself.He is being punished if he's not combative or suicidal.
Ahhhh Cooks and the UCMJ -
You seem to have a good grasp of it.
What part of it do you other kids not understand?
"The authority is the commanding officer's authority, which is granted to ensure good order and discipline within his command. Yes, he can made(make) the decision to put someone in solitary confinement, even before charges are filed. Yes, he must cite his reasons. Yes, that decision is subject to review by the commanding officer's seniors in the chain of command."
What part of it do you other kids not understand? "
I think there's a lot of info we don't know.
I would hope they have reason for the solitary and shackles, but now days you never know with the wimps, bureaucrats,liberals and traitors everywhere.
PhuLoi 70-71
From another thirty year retired Law Enforcement Officer:
IF you did this to Joe Dirtbag, any city, any state, he would have the ACLU beating on a judge's door for a Writ order, right before he filed his civil rights lawsuit.
At trial, this confinement would be shouted to the maximum volume
From my view, this is trumped up BS.
Remember, a "snitch" in Pantano's squad told the world that Pantano had committed murder.
PhuLoi
the moonscape....it was Div Arty and Av when I was there.
Hwy 13 rat, here....on it, east and west of it, and even N of it at least once.
I e-mailed this story to a soldier supporter friend who asked the question, Why is the lawyer not defending this sailor pro bono?
She proceeded to phone the lawyer's office and suggest the same. I think it's a great idea, if others would do so.
That is just B.S. Shackles and solitary confinement before you are tried is cruel and unusual punishment. Release these men. Semper Fi.
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