Posted on 06/06/2006 3:41:48 PM PDT by RWR8189
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Nice to have this posted again. It looks like you're a Allen supporter . . . at least that's what your photos seem to indicate. What's your opinion of Romney?
Glad you want to protect the sanctity of marriage. There are 10 million couples living outside of marriage, 1 million divorces a year, and 6000 same sex marriages in a two year period that do not impact heterosexual marriage in the slightest. So exactly which of those problems is the greatest danger to marriage?
One or the other Mitt. Either you accept that, as time may change the requirement and definition of federalism, that it may also change the definition of marriage. Or you accept that neither changes. You don't get to pick and choose.
I email-ed my Senator (Harry Reid) and got some bullcrap form letter response about the Constitution not being changed. Well, scratch the Bill of Rights, bring back slavery, and deny women the vote if ammendments are bad.
Might want to ping this to the libertarian list, re: Federalism.
With two exceptions I can think of, when the Constitution has been amended it has been to further restrict government or to expand on the enumerated rights. The two exceptions were Prohibition, which was repealed, and Income Tax, which was probably the worst Amendment ever made to the Constitution.
It's question whether homosexual marriage is an individual right, but to amend the Constitution in that manner is a road to disaster.
If we don't amend the Constitution to define marriage as between one man and one woman our traditional institution of marriage will be on the endangered list.
You mean if gays start marrying, then men and women will stop marrying each other? Mighty influential these homosexuals.
Something to consider: Society is moving more and more towards accepting homosexuals. If this amendment goes through and society continues on its present course, it will soon be repealed. Only when it gets repealed, it won't be a simple repeal. It will constitutionally guarantee a right to homosexual marriage.
For me, the real issue is reigning in activist judges and mayors. They are making the ammendment necessary.
I'm sorry that you never knew your dad, and did not have an intact family to grow up in. Sad.
Clueless.
You are apparently responding to the wrong poster. I'm not sure what you are referring to.
This is why we are losing. This debate has NOTHING to do with the purpose of marriage.
It has to do with the meaning of words, and who can change them.
Every human, every where, and at all times, has understood what the word "marriage" means. Marriage is antecedent to society, and to government.
Government cannot change the meaning of the noun, not by a million laws or a million court decisions.
Forcing people to speak lies (and it is a lie to say that two men are "married") is tyranny. THAT's what this issue is about.
Well, by golly. You sure shot down all of my arguments.
Mitt sounds no different than you when it comes to having the government step in and override the institutions of private property and individual choice and personal responsibility.
No matter how many times this line is repeated, it remains the big lie.
When government puts it's imprimatur on homosexual marriage, it becomes incumbent on government to teach that homosexual marriage equals heterosexual marriage. They prefer to do that in the public schools where stealth and inncoent minds are the coin of the realm.
Will parents have recourse? Of course not because nothing constrains the public schools from preaching "equality" of marriage once the state has stamped it's approval.
And that's how homosexual marriage affects traditional marriage.
So please keep the left wing talking points on the left wing websites.
Nonsense, equality now means preferences for some.
Please don't try and hijack this thread. If you want a constitutional amendment to recognize the autonomy of cigarette smokers, fine, but on the other thread please. If you want to discuss the FMA, this thread works fine.
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