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Fleeing the battle
Salon ^ | 6/2/06 | Joe Conason/Photo by AP/Chris Greenberg

Posted on 06/02/2006 5:26:27 AM PDT by Coop

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LOL! I really think Murtha and the Democrats believe this "cruising" nonsense, too. They truly don't realize the hornet's nest they've swatted with calling Marines cold-blooded murderers. W04Man's new website, up for about 36 hours, already has 250 veterans signed up.

But the article's point is well taken. Where is the PAC funding? Where are the prominent GOP politicians raising funds and raising her profile? (And for the record, I don't think President Bush should get involved with this one. But Cheney, Ed Gillespie, Tom Ridge, etc. would be wonderful!)

Ms. Irey's grassroots campaign is start to attract national attention. Hundreds of online donations, from 46 states last I heard yesterday, bookings on Laura Ingraham and Alan Colmes' radio shows, an upcoming appearance on FR... If she continues raising her profile and funds, the GOP will eventually have to acknowledge her success. And we can speed this up by leaning heavily on all our GOP representatives.

1 posted on 06/02/2006 5:26:28 AM PDT by Coop
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And to answer the likely question from folks who haven't been following this race closely -- John Kerry won PA's 12th district with a paltry 51% of the vote in 2004. Murtha's electoral success has come from his conservative leanings, which have all but disappeared over the past year or two.


2 posted on 06/02/2006 5:28:48 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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Coop, don't take this the wrong way..but Irey is now auditioning for her role as a viable GOP candidate..a vetting process of sorts..she's got to show she can handle the press, the pressure, the exposure..that she can speak cogently and coherently...IOW that she can walk and chew gum at the same time...also, Murtha's campaign is probably doing oppo research on her. If she comes up clean, that is, they find nothing, then I expect that national support and $$ will come flowing in..


3 posted on 06/02/2006 5:31:53 AM PDT by ken5050 (GWB, Reagan, Thatcher, Pope John Paul II, freed hundreds of millions.# of Nobel PeacePrizes: ZERO)
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Take it the wrong way? I agree with you. Perhaps I didn't express it well up above. But I'm saying we can all speed up this auditioning process through our grass-roots support.


4 posted on 06/02/2006 5:33:11 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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Sometimes the grassroots can do the job. I don't recall the GOP bigs coming to the defense of Ollie North when he was testifying before Congress. The effort on his behalf was a spontaneous one by regular folks, and it turned into a tidal wave. It's very difficult for the party to openly and fully go after someone like Murtha. He's an old man and a Vet. But that doesn't make him right.
5 posted on 06/02/2006 5:33:26 AM PDT by veronica ("A person needs a sense of mission like the air he breathes...")
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To: Coop

John Murtha's success has come from the Pork he takes to a hard core Union area. The people of Johnstown have to decide between Pork and National Security. Why the Republicans are not supporting his opponent is interesting.


6 posted on 06/02/2006 5:34:39 AM PDT by paguch
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It's very difficult for the party to openly and fully go after someone like Murtha.

I respectfully disagree on that one.

But they don't have to go after Murtha. They just have to support his Republican opponent, and let her do the hard work.

7 posted on 06/02/2006 5:34:41 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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Salon.com thinks Murtha is cruising towards reelection? If Salon wants to see cruising it should look at it's own stock with respect to oblivion....

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8 posted on 06/02/2006 5:39:42 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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First of all if I were Rove I would not make any move in June, July, August, or September. At the slightest movement by Rove, Soros and his like will dump millions into this race to re-elect Murtha. they would do that by attacking his opponent.

The way to take Murtha is to act like you are not going to challenge him at all. In fact if his district is conservative he may already be in trouble. If he is winning or if he is vulnerable, a smart strategest would wait until the final days of the campaign and then hit hard with a very good spot campaign to turn out the anti Murtha vote. A man like Murtha will not be defeated by people voting for his opponent, he will be defeated by people voting against him.

The only thing needed would be a campaign late in the race that showed people Murtha is on the verge of being defeated. If money is spent right now to take Murtha down, it would only bring huge dollars into play to win it for him. They would protect Murtha by attacking his opponent. They would find issues to make Murtha's opponent seem as bad as Murtha.

There is no need to paint Murtha as a bad apple or to get into a fight defending the challenger. All that is required is to get out the anti Murtha vote. All that requires is a showing that if the anti Murtha turn out is big he will be defeated.

9 posted on 06/02/2006 5:40:06 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Coop

BTTT


10 posted on 06/02/2006 5:44:35 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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First of all if I were Rove I would not make any move in June, July, August, or September. At the slightest movement by Rove, Soros and his like will dump millions into this race to re-elect Murtha. they would do that by attacking his opponent... A man like Murtha will not be defeated by people voting for his opponent, he will be defeated by people voting against him.

I agree on the timing and motivation. Anger is a powerful motivator, and Murtha has a bunch of angry veterans organizing against him.

11 posted on 06/02/2006 5:54:13 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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The campaigns don't really start uintil 9/15. I saw Irey and she's good. A RINO, maybe. Murtha must be in hog heaven. 30 years oor more of anonymous service to the country and now he's a regular on Meeet the Press.


12 posted on 06/02/2006 6:08:55 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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What's your definition of RINO?


13 posted on 06/02/2006 6:10:13 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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Thank you for that website. Passing that info on to some interested parties.


15 posted on 06/02/2006 6:30:12 AM PDT by StarCMC ("The word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say." - TheCrusader)
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Proofreading is our friend.

16 posted on 06/02/2006 6:31:34 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: StarCMC

Good work! :-)


17 posted on 06/02/2006 6:31:57 AM PDT by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: Common Tator

I'd like to add to your analysis that Murtha is doing a good job of alienating his district all by his lonesome. When your enemy is making a mistake, don't interrupt him.

Murtha has to escalate his rhetoric to keep the attention on him. The risk is that the facts, when they come out, will not support his most outlandish claims against the Marines & the Marine Corps. All those quotes are going to come home to roost this Fall.


18 posted on 06/02/2006 6:33:04 AM PDT by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: Coop

I think the grassroots at this point is MUCH more important than the GOP bigs. She looks a bit like Jodie Foster in that pic BTW.


19 posted on 06/02/2006 6:39:21 AM PDT by pissant
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perhaps an "October surprise" in the form of Vets gathering in the district could be arranged.

Murtha MUST be turned out to pasture, otherwise the kerry-fonda legacy will continue. Murtha's incessant public denigration of the troops and their mission can only be countered with making him the example of what can happen when such treachery is comitted for partisan and idealogical purposes. Murtha's attacks are very carefully designed to directly target military espirit-de-corps and at the same time pretend to "support" the troops, which for him is little more than his own tales of visiting wounded troops in WRAMC.


20 posted on 06/02/2006 6:41:23 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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