Posted on 06/01/2006 12:27:33 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Except that Intel's new processors which be coming out in this summer will be far superior to anything has to offer now or contemplated and will also run much cooler. The good thing is that Intel processors are manufactured in the USA. All AMD processors are manufactured in Germany in Fabs that are heavily subsidized by Germany.
Sun will be fine - they will be a smaller company, selling to customers in a space where relability, stability and performance are important. we had a drive go bad on a Sun recently - it had not been rebooted in 6 years. try that with anything else.
Managers, Directors, VPs don't think about those things when they sign a check for a bunch of i386 platform harddrives @ $300 per harddrive vs whatever [higher quality] SUN drives. Being a techie myself, I know what you stated is true, but the uneducated, immediate cost driven managers don't understand.
Now there's a pairing that gives me chills, and not the good kind.
However, the AMD does win out on energy/performance.
I just bought a P4, my first Intel after two AMD purchases. The thing runs hot, but I can OC it (and the DD2) by 10% in "normal" weather.
AIX?
Probably not. We've already heard they're getting out of the embedded market. I think they're just trying to concentrate on fewer things like their new line of chips which will, for the first time in years, not have its butt kicked by AMD.
Intel is in too many businesses. I've never figured out why they made motherboard chipsets or motherboards - both of which are low-margin businesses. Then there was that fiasco where Intel insisted on the Rambus memory standard because it owned a big chunk of Rambus stock, only to back down when the total system cost of Intel systems with Rambus memory got too out of whack. Intel is all over the map except where it needs to be - the king of the CPU world. The Pentium 4 and the Itanium were both expensive fiascos. AMD showed that you could use a lineal descendant of the x86 standard and beat Intel at its own game. Intel had to spend all that extra cash and then end up using x86-based chips (Pentium 3/M) in its laptops, because the Pentium 4 architecture required too much power. Intel simply needs to hire AMD's CEO and start doing what it used to do - stick to its knitting and clean its CPU competitors' clocks.
AMD ain't exactly eatin' Intel's lunch just yet, but they've definitely eroded their market share to a painful degree. Intel has to take action, no doubt.
I'd forgotten the Rambus fiasco. A guy I worked with built a system with Rambus and he was quite surprised when he found out that he had to buy blank memory chips (Rambus RIMM Continuity module..amazing what Google will come up with) because the system wouldn't run with empty memory slots.
Technology doesn't stand still and I would rather an American company come out on top than a German one!
Several years ago GTE got rid of over 22K in one fell swoop (I was one of the “swooped”).
sorry to hear, you get back to doin the jobs illegals cant do yet ;) ?
Yea! Unswooped withing two weeks of being swooped.
perhaps.
Technology doesn't stand still and I would rather an American company come out on top than a German one!
Um, I know I'm late to the thread (work late, have to catch up on an entire days worth of threads), but...
AMD is an American company based out of Sunnyvale, California. Both AMD and Intel have manufacturing plants around the world, and both have plants in the US.
Depending on the life cycle of the plants (i.e., as new manufacturing processes are created and installed at different locations), processors are made wherever they can cost effectively implement new technologies. Meaning, it's not efficient to upgrade every manufacturing plant, EVERYTIME a new procedure is developed for chips. They upgrade where it makes sense.
Several factors are at play. How large the facilities are (for the ability to mass produce), how old the current technology is at the locations (relatively newer facilities can be switched to lesser important products that can use the existing technology while upgrading obsolete plants to the latest technology), etc., etc.
Both AMD and Intel change the location of where their flagship chips are manufactured and they always will. Both have produced chips here in the States and both have produced them in other countries (See Intel Ramps Up for Pentium 4 Assembly in China and Intel to build second facility in China . Both WILL produce them in the States in the future.
AMD is building a new large campus in Austin, Texas (See AMD Lone Star Campus. Intel is heavily focusing on building their R&D centers in China (See Intel support page, Intel Ramps R&D Efforts in China). Should we now switch to buying AMD chips because of their new center being built in Texas and stop buying Intel chips since they are outsourcing their manufacturing and R&D jobs to the Chinese now?
As far as the new Intel flagships coming out soon, well, we'll see just how good they are when they actually arrive. We've all seen Intel's hype before. **Cough**Itanium**Cough**
When I worked in Silicon Valley, both AMD and Intel were customers. AMD has come a long way in the past decade.
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