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The Wilson/Plame Affair Gets Even Stranger
The American Thinker ^ | 6/01/06 | clarice feldman

Posted on 06/01/2006 8:04:08 AM PDT by the Real fifi

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To: norwaypinesavage

Thanks. That helps.


21 posted on 06/01/2006 8:44:12 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions-------and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: massgopguy; the Real fifi
Alan Foley was indeed the section chief at the anti-proliferation office.

Then maybe what he is saying is that "she" wasn't part of the anti-proliferation office.

I keep going back to the fact that Novak called CIA to confirm her employment. If she was undercover, her cover employer would confirm her employment, but CIA would not. The fact that CIA confirmed her employment means to me that she was not undercover.

And now the head of the anti-proliferation office, where she supposedly worked, says she didn't work for him.

22 posted on 06/01/2006 8:46:03 AM PDT by marron
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To: saganite

I think it means that this whole thing was cooked up by Wilson,Plame,and others at CIA to discredit George Bush,his administration,The Iraq War,and(lastly but not leastly),The Republican Party!One more thing,the acquisition of"Celebrity",etc.,etc.,.......It's ALL VERY SEEDY and without willing accomplices in The LIB Media,it had"no legs"at all!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 06/01/2006 8:50:46 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: the Real fifi

I believe the LAT reported Plame worked at the desk next to Foley after the FBI investigation was first announced in Aug/Sept (?) 2003. Also, Foley retired very early during this scandal, denying his retirement was related. I thought he protested too much, ha ha ha. I've always wondered what he was hiding and why no one was focusing on his role.


24 posted on 06/01/2006 8:57:31 AM PDT by Gothmog
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To: Hildy

Could be a sure sign we have entirely TOO MUCH government...


25 posted on 06/01/2006 8:57:46 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (It is not the oath that makes us believe the man, but the man the oath.- Aeschylus)
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To: bandleader

Gentle friendly hint - try putting a space after punctuation marks. It would lend your posts a certain clarity that now they lack.


26 posted on 06/01/2006 8:58:34 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: Darkwolf377

We know she worked for the CIA. John Kerry gave her a ride into Cambodia. It's seared in my memory. Seared, I tell you.


27 posted on 06/01/2006 9:02:36 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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To: massgopguy

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4088146/site/newsweek/

"One crucial witness in the Senate probe was Alan Foley, the recently retired director of the CIA’s Non-Proliferation Center..."

I find Foley's response to The American Thinker very interesting. Those were excellent questions and deserve to be answered. There are several people who should be required to testify under oath.


28 posted on 06/01/2006 9:03:01 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: SE Mom; the Real fifi; Enchante; backhoe; A Citizen Reporter; AliVeritas; alnick; AmericaUnited; ...
Scooter ping!
29 posted on 06/01/2006 9:10:44 AM PDT by STARWISE (((They (Rats) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war-RichardMiniter, respected OBL autho)
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To: Gothmog

Well Foley says the first he ever heard of her was the Novak article so the report that their desks were near eachother seems unlikely.


30 posted on 06/01/2006 9:12:39 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the *ping*!


31 posted on 06/01/2006 9:17:15 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (DemocRATs- the CULTURE OF TREASON!)
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To: STARWISE
A strange twist indeed..... Foley's note repudiates several supposed 'facts' that have been retailed by lazy journalists. If he truly did not have anything to do with Valerie Pflame and setting up Joe's trips to Niger then who did??? p.s. I notice that he avoids answering several of Feldman's questions.

FOLEY: "Nor did I have any responsibility or authority relating to them, the reported trip to Niger, or the subsequent leak investigation."
32 posted on 06/01/2006 9:21:36 AM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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To: the Real fifi

It's quite possible Plame did indeed work in counter-proliferation, and Foley was indeed her ultimate boss - several levels above her, and she was a relative flunky (perhaps even a recent transfer to counterproliferation) whom Foley had personally never met or interacted with. Kind of like Jeffrey Skilling not knowing the junior comptroller in charge of auditing the energy trading business.

Everything we learn about this case screams out that Plame was not very important at the agency and certainly was not working late (wasn't she spending her evenings leading post-partum depression counseling, and didn't she say that her duties as a mother were more taxing than her duties at the agency?).

Wilson is a natural hype-himself con man personality, and no doubt he hyped to the press the stature of his "secret agent" wife. Yes, she may have suggested to someone important his name for the Niger "mission" and may have introduced him at a meeting. And then went to get the coffee and call for lunch (I mean figuratively). She was not the organizing force for that trip, and was not the person who green-lighted the mis-chosen Wilson amd allowed him not to sign a non-disclosure agreement or to make a written report of his trip. In fact, the latter two facts also lend themselves to the interpretation that whoever approved the trip may have considered it not very important and expected it highly likely to yield nothing of import ("okay, you can send the former ambassador who claims to know everyone who is anyone in Niger, and who knows, maybe a blind pig will find an acorn").

What is the relationship of WINPAC to CPD? Are they parallel organizational creations, in that WINPAC is a sort of interdeparmental clearinghouse for information, drawing on people from CPD as well as other departments?


33 posted on 06/01/2006 9:26:50 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: the Real fifi

Well now, just hold on a bit. I am checking my past FR posts becuase I am sure I posted it back then, but I've got a lot of my own fascinating posts to scroll through, ha ha ha.


34 posted on 06/01/2006 9:27:02 AM PDT by Gothmog
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To: the Real fifi

It seems there is a long list of people that Fitz DARE NOT put under oath, if he ever expects to get a SC seat. Right?


35 posted on 06/01/2006 9:30:06 AM PDT by Waco
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To: the Real fifi

Im pretty sure there is no Valerie Plame.....


Who hired Craig Livingstone?


36 posted on 06/01/2006 9:31:01 AM PDT by woofie (Another actor with political ideas.................John Wilkes Booth)
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To: the Real fifi

This is just more stark evidence that the MSM is hopelessly biased wwwaaayyy to the Left. They have no interest in any aspect of this story unless they can spin it into getting Dick Cheney or Carl Rove behind bars.


37 posted on 06/01/2006 9:32:51 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

To the best of my knowledge,CPD is part of the Directorate of Operations. WINPAC is part of the Directorate of Intelligence. The DO is where the cloak and daggers operate, the DI is where the analysts work.


38 posted on 06/01/2006 9:38:08 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Yes but her group did jump through the hoops to turn on a Secret Clearance for him before the trip.

There was article written by Pincus that detiled a few media types enjoying a 4th of July party at the Plame residence a week before Novak's story hit. No one has ever followed up on how the media was invited to their home before the socalled outing.


39 posted on 06/01/2006 9:41:05 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Wristpin

Here's something else the media never reported much on:The May 2, 2003 Senate Democratic Policy Conference where Wilson spoke . It was there he was first interviewed by the NYT's Kristof. There is a funny circumlocution about the story which always reports Kristof had breakfast there with Wilson and "his wife" leaving it unclear if "his wife" was Kristof's wife or Plame.
Even more interesting, while the SDPC meetings are all online..the May 2 one is nowhere to be found (not even cached).The following meeting of the SDPC starred the Wilsonista gang the Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity and Rockefeller used that occasion to make an anti-Administration speech. The VIPS actively encourages intelligence officers to leak to the press.


40 posted on 06/01/2006 9:48:38 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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