Victor Davis Hanson: Europe's Good Intentions Have Gone Sour

Real Clear Politics ^ | June 01, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

[Tolik]

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[shezza]

But instead of utopia, unintended consequences ensued. Unemployment soared. Dismal economic growth, shrinking populations and a scarier world outside their borders followed.

Welcome to a New World Disorder....

[RobFromGa]

Some brave soul soon is going to have to inform the European public: Work much harder and longer for less money; defend the continent on your own; move out of mama's house and start changing diapers - and from now on expect far less from the state.

Who knows what the reaction will be to that splash of cold water? In response, what European populist will soon appear on the streets in Rome, Berlin or Madrid once again to deceive the public that it was someone else who caused these disappointments?

We in America should take note of the looming end of this once seemingly endless summer. We've been there, done that with this beloved continent all too many times before.

Luckily (or unluckily), this time Europe so militarily inferior that they will be little threat to us. It would take them at least a decade to arm themselves. Our biggest danger is that they lose control of their nukes to someone with an army.

[Esther Ruth]

NWO creating a monster

[G.Mason]

"Some brave soul soon is going to have to inform the European public: Work much harder and longer for less money; defend the continent on your own; move out of mama's house and start changing diapers - and from now on expect far less from the state."

That "brave soul" won't be from among those elected to office, that is for certain.

Should any pompous pol say anything remotely resembling the truth, he/she will be immediately removed from office and there will be a car shortage in Europe.

[metesky]

Good column, but I fear the Euroweenies are not going to give up on socialism easily.

[rhombus]

Who knows what the reaction will be to that splash of cold water? In response, what European populist will soon appear on the streets in Rome, Berlin or Madrid once again to deceive the public that it was someone else who caused these disappointments?

I expect that this will be the likely outcome and would not be surprised to see some charismatic leader unite the EU in the brotherhood of socialism and "necessary" totalitarianism. At least then the trains may run on time. ;-)

[shezza]

You know what they say about the Road to Hell....

[butternut_squash_bisque]

"What is going on?"

War is at Europe's doorstep, again. The muslim invaders will soon make the Paris Riots seem tame and commonplace. Their anti-Americanism will soon turn to "Save Us Again, America!"

[Steely Tom]

Good column, but I fear the Euroweenies are not going to give up on socialism easily.

Socialism's gonna give up on them. Always happens.

[metesky]

Socialism's gonna give up on them. Always happens.

Isn't that usually when the killing fields open for business?

[rightinthemiddle]

Thanks, Tolik.

I've had many conversations with some of my lib friends who travel to Europe and envy the Europeans so much. They, like the Euros, will never admit the failure of the systems.

These people are looking for Eutopia funded by the evil corporations and the money-hungry Republicans who are stupid enough to start their own businesses and work 50+ hours a week.

[GOPJ]

Some brave soul soon is going to have to inform the European public: Work much harder and longer for less money; defend the continent on your own; move out of mama's house and start changing diapers - and from now on expect far less from the state.

And Hanson is that brave soul...

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the ping. Riots are happening in Paris again:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1641613/posts

New riots erupt in suburbs of Paris
The Scotsman ^ | June 1, 2006 | SUSAN BELL


Posted on 06/01/2006 12:02:39 AM PDT by MadIvan


THE sole survivor of last autumn's accidental electrocution of three youths, which triggered the worst rioting in France for more than 40 years, was arrested on Tuesday as fresh riots broke out in Parisian suburbs for the second night running.

Muhittin Altun, 18, was arrested on the eve of a judicial reconstruction of the controversial incident in which his two friends, also youths of African origin, were killed last October after taking refuge in an electricity sub-station in the deprived suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois, ten miles east of central Paris.

Mr Altun, who was seriously injured in the incident, said he and his friends, Bouna Traore, 15, and Zyed Benna, 17, scrambled up the high-security fence around the sub-station because they were being chased by police, a version of events which has been denied by the authorities.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the interior minister, opened a judicial investigation into the incident, which provoked three weeks of unrest across France as youths, many of African origin, clashed with police and burned cars and buildings in the country's deprived suburbs to show their anger over alleged discrimination and police harassment.

Mr Altun had been due to participate in yesterday's judicial reconstruction of the events surrounding the electrocution incident when he was arrested along with 12 others during rioting in Clichy-sous-Bois and Montfermeil.

His lawyer, Jean-Pierre Mignard, contested police claims that Mr Altun had been involved in Tuesday night's unrest.

"He was downstairs in front of his home ... he wasn't where the violence was taking place," Mr Mignard told Europe 1 radio yesterday. "Why, on the day before an important judicial meeting ... was he arrested? I see a miraculous coincidence there," he added.

In two nights of rioting, nine police officers were injured, five vehicles were set alight and three people were arrested. According to police, the new wave of riots were triggered by the arrest of a youth suspected of assaulting a bus driver.

Mr Sarkozy condemned the violence. He has called for a change in the law to make it easier to clamp down on juvenile offenders.

The opposition leader, Socialist party secretary François Hollande, blamed Mr Sarkozy for the renewed outbreak of urban unrest. "He comes to the suburbs and he announces commitments from the state which never arrive. He encourages ... the police. But he stigmatises a number of young people. He does nothing to calm the situation," he said.

[szweig]

Why don't they just hang the sumbitch??!?

[norton]

The last time something like this happened they didn't exactly "give up socialism"...it got made over with black and brown shirts.

"what European populist will soon appear on the streets in Rome, Berlin or Madrid once again to deceive the public that it was someone else who caused these disappointments?"

[Barset]

Thanks, Tolik, for posting this. It is so strange to me, this blindness to the real problem of giving people who are essentially squatters, with no investment in, or desire to preserve the host culture,the rights and freedoms denied to them in their own culture and countries of origin.

The Scotsman article promotes the fiction that the only problem is that these troublesome suburbs are "deprived." The author uses "deprived suburbs" twice in the article.

Of what are they deprived? Schools? Youth centers? Clinics? autos? They burn them to the ground. They have a standard of living higher than any they could expect in their countries of origin, all paid for by a citizenry they despise.

[Grampa Dave]

"Of what are they deprived? Schools? Youth centers? Clinics? autos? They burn them to the ground. They have a standard of living higher than any they could expect in their countries of origin, all paid for by a citizenry they despise."

Your comments above should be the beginning and end paragraph any article of those burning stores/cars/whatever in Europe or here.

[Thombo2]

"Their anti-Americanism will soon turn to "Save Us Again, America."You may be right about that.Rhetorical question:What if we say "get lost" this time?