Posted on 05/30/2006 6:42:24 PM PDT by neverdem
yes, well what did they leave the profession to do? Were they degreed nurses?
My salary tripled when I left, and the job paid the same salary to all qualified people, including the nurses. Thus a science in nursing degree is worth more outside patient care than in.
Hospitals no longer want to provide patient care. It is that simple. There is no money in it for them.
My sister-in-law went through nurse training program in SC. Out of a class os 300, 30 graduated. With numbers like that, no wonder we have shortages.
You mean Americans go to school for 4 years only to have someone from a foreign country probably with little training come over here and snatch up their job. This hardly sounds like a job Americans won't do.(sarcasm).
Also, look next time at who is building your highway. I have yet to see a black or white face.
I see Hitlery is busy with her health care reform. I bet she has never stopped.
Bad training program. RN or LPN?
98 percrnt of my school passed the RN boards. Hard course, hard instructors. Tough, smart class. Its like making it through training as a SEAL.
Its not the schools.
Their is no real shortage of nurses. There is a shortage of nurses working in nursing. Its the hospitals. It was the hospitals before insurance companies took over and it still is.
Where are you getting your info? As a general rule, only government hospitals pay doctors salaries. Private hospitals don't. Doctors in private practice bill patients or the patient's medical insurance carrier.
"Only if they are HOT nurses. (did I just type that out loud?)"
I'm a nurse, but don't know if I'm hot. But then I'm male.
"Nurses eat their own....."
As a nurse since 1986, I refused to work in a hospital.
Most DOCTORS are complete A**holes and treat the nurses like *hit.
You used to be able to count on a nurse to be nicer than a doctor. The stress of the job has changed a lot of that. The health care industry is in a hot mess.
People have been brainwashed about sending their kids to college and not trade schools. Last time I heard, my plumber was making pretty well $$$$$
Hospitals no longer want to provide patient care. It is that simple. There is no money in it for them.
Both of them have said that. It's not clear to me how hospitals can make money, given the regulations and legal liabilities they have to deal with.
If hospitals were money makers, wouldn't we see more opening instead of so many closing?
My wife is a nurse practitioner and the doctors dispise nurse practioners.
Related to this story in two ways is this doctor who was living here who was from South Africa and wanted desperately to stay here in the US. We live close to the largest rural hospital in the US, probably the world, I don't know. North Mississippi Medical Center (Google it if you don't believe me).
There was this doctor working there who came to the US from South Afica which is in such a mess he doesn't want to return. He recently got deported! A doctor denied citizen status who was trying to do it the right way!
Salaries are rising, and rapidly! In the market I'm in, starting salaries 2.5 months ago were $20.82. Now the starting salary is $24.00, and more increases are expected.
It's supply and demand. In spite of the influx of foreign workers, the demand is not being met, so prices are rising. Also, there are not enough nursing programs here to train the number of people who want the training. There is a two year or more wait to get in nursing programs in the colleges here.
The California Nurses Association isn't going to like this much. They've become one of the most powerful forces in state government, but they may have a problem organizing a bunch of new immigrants.
no their not.....most docs are the best and the brightest we have, funny and articulate, caring.....and I won't even talk about the female docs....just fantastic....very patient oriented yet can maintain the needed leadership role....
Plumbers make a good wage but their future is endanger by a flood of illegals who are willing to work for 8 dollars an hour and do very poor quality work. The invaders have no pride in a job well done they just rush to finish the work. The more technical the trade the greater the hack job. HVAC and electrical work should not be done by the uneducated.
Speaking as someone who's done plumbing, HVAC and electrical on a DIY basis, let me tell you how right you are: almost anyone can do it, but it is damn hard to do it well, consistently, without fail.
Plumbers, electricians, HVACkers...they earn their pay in spades.
And carpenters?
Do NOT get me started on them! Constant precision minute by minute for forty years? With no chance to re-edit or file a corrective document? Impressive beyond compare.
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