Dutch pedophiles to launch political party

Reuters ^ | 5-31-06

[ChadGore]

[Redmen4ever]

How's this for a knee-jerk libertarian response:

A libertarian was asked about sexual relations, and said that anything between or among consenting adults should be legal.

What about children?

Well, there is a question as to whether a parent or other guardian can give consent on behalf of the child for such a thing. In the state of Mississippi, it used to be legal for children as young as 14 to marry with the consent of their parents. Perhaps it still is.

What about animals?

Again there is a questions to what ownership of animals involves. Can you be cruel to animals?

What about this line of reasoning ...

A Republican, a Democrat and a Libertarian were deer hunting, when a deer came into their kill zone. A flush of embarrassment came over them, and each of them felt he had to justify why they could kill the animal.

Well, said the Republican, I have a gun. That gives me the right.

I take that as a vote in favor of us killing the deer, said the Democrat, to which I will add my vote, which makes a majority of the three of us, and that gives us the right.

The two of them then looked to the Libertarian. The deer, he said, walked into our kill zone of its own free will, thus giving us its implicit consent.

And then there's this line of reasoning ...

Why is chicken kosher for Libertarians, but not horses?

Chickens say, "cheap, cheap," while horses say "nay."

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

LOLOLOL

[Aquinasfan]

"A ban just makes children curious,"

Which is a worse fate than being sodomized. Makes sense if you're possessed.

[far sider]

The party's program also includes ideas for other areas of public policy including legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all. The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public. Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.

Well at least, they're compromising some.

[floridaobserver]

free train travel for all.

[Aquinasfan]

This is similar to the Gay Marriage issue 15 years ago. It seemed crazy. Now is the law of the land.

Yup. In Massachusetts today it would barely fail in a referendum. Opposition runs about 48% to 46% in favor. 15 years ago it was unheard of.

[Uddercha0s]

Haha.. thanks

[mad puppy]

Are there any parents left in the Netherlands?

Surely any normal parent will vote against this, right? Where do these whack-jobs get their 12, 13, and 14 year old kids now? At what point do they then vote that all the kids at some age MUST be subject to them if the parents don't allow their own kids this "freedom"?

As the father of 5, there are a few things that I get killing-angry about. Mess with my kids, and bad things will happen. I always thought that was just a parent-DNA thing, but maybe I'm wrong.

[votelife]

Ruth Bader Ginsburg did argue for the lowering of the consent law...someone can find the details...

[GOPJ]

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said,

It's well known on the left that if anything can be talked about on a national level, moral barriers come down.

It's why there's no talk of second amendment rights here or anywhere, anymore. And it's why there's much talk of homosexual rights. Here there and everywhere.

The more pedophilia is discussed, rather than shunned or condemned, the more it will become a part of the culture -- and the equivalent of a "he said - she said" twisted equivalence.

We live in sick times.

It's time to start discussing the death penalty for pedophiles.

[kittymyrib]

Sodom, Gomorrah, Amsterdam?

[GOPJ]

Debate for a mandatory death penalty for pedophiles has started. Which side are you on?

[floridaobserver]

"homosexual rights" "abortion rights"


If the South had merely asked for "slavery rights" they might have won over the northern newspapers of the day.


It's all in the semantics.

[rovenstinez]

A list of NO FLY people that should be banned from the US

[unlearner]

It might be of interest to point out that the modern age of consent laws originated with feminism, not Judeo-Christianity, as is commonly assumed.

If memory serves me correctly, I believe that at the beginning of our nation, the age of consent was as low as eight in some states.

Biblical morality has more to do with lifelong, heterosexual monogamy which begins after entering into a marriage covenant. Such a marriage requires the consent of the parties and minimally the consent of the girl's father.

Feminists persuaded society in the late eighteen hundreds that young girls' morality was at risk apart from a standardized age of consent law. Before this, if an older man had extramarital sexual relations with a young girl, it was primarily his word against hers over whether she consented. After the laws, consent did not matter because she was not considered able to give it (even if she was considered old enough to live away from home and work in a factory.)

The practical outcome of this type of law was not so much the protection of the innocence of young girls, or even the criminalization of their exploiters. It was that it robbed parents of their rightful role in giving their blessing to relationships AFTER the age of consent. Gradually, age of consent has come to mean the age after which anything goes (morally speaking).

In one sense, age of consent laws ought to be opposed by those who support biblical morality. In another sense, perhaps they should be supported with the stipulation that the age of consent is somewhere around seventy.

It is not morally possible to consent to doing something that is intrinsically evil, no matter what the age.

[virginiaspook]

Yep, this is where moral relativism leads. Who am I to judge - or to say what's right or wrong?

I'm dying to see their campaign posters!

Sheesh! This is sick!

[GOPJ]

If the South had merely asked for "slavery rights" they might have won over the northern newspapers of the day. It's all in the semantics.

Good point.

[GianniV]

Guarantee that at least 90% of these sickos in the US vote Democrat. Anything goes with the Democrats - sodomy, diddling little kids, whatever.

It's only sex!

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

You must have some confusion on what it means to be Libertarian. A Libertarian desires freedom for ADULTS, not abuse of children and it's disgusting you would associate an American Political Party with the nonsense perversion above. Your ignorance abounds. And astounds.

You obviously totally misrepresented my remarks.

Posts like these always invite the knee-jerk arguments that Libertarians support child-porn and free drugs.

I was, in fact, defending Libertarians, not criticizing them.