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The Bureau of "Nature Conservancy"
Trumpet America ^ | JOYCE MORRISON

Posted on 05/30/2006 6:27:27 AM PDT by palmer

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Now that Paulson is being proposed for Treasury Secretery, it seems worthwhile to discuss if he is "too green".
1 posted on 05/30/2006 6:27:29 AM PDT by palmer
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To: palmer

TNC is a threat to private landowners everywhere.


2 posted on 05/30/2006 6:35:47 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: palmer

No NGO should receive one red cent of public treasure. Period.


3 posted on 05/30/2006 6:41:18 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; B4Ranch; Paul Ross; DumpsterDiver; Czar; Borax Queen; janetgreen
FYI

Somethings up with our public lands, I have no doubt. The globalists in our government are too tightly tied with Goldman Sachs for it to be otherwise. Putting Paulsen at the head of the Treasury department is further corporatizing the federal government.
4 posted on 05/30/2006 6:52:17 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: FreeInWV

The TNC has no power of condemnation. They only buy from willing sellers.

My impression of TNC is favorable. I work for one of the aforementioned Federal agencies, and TNC has been very accommodating...they have always given me unrestricted access to their local holdings, and they allow deer hunting on them as well, which keeps the locals happy.


5 posted on 05/30/2006 7:05:45 AM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: Renfield
They only buy from willing sellers.

Ha ha ha.
6 posted on 05/30/2006 7:12:29 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: SierraWasp

Ping. (I'm thinking this may interest you.)


7 posted on 05/30/2006 7:15:40 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Renfield

Not so in my area. What I have seen is how they drive down the cost of land so they can buy it for pennies on the dollar. Then they carve out the pieces that they want and sell the rest to the govt at a huge profit.

Sure TNC may be really friendly to your agency. Nobody bites the hand that feeds it. You are spending millions of taxpayer dollars on them. They will also let the hunters in for ten years or so and likely give PILT money to the county for a few years too. Then it will be over. Its a cost of doing business for them.

My question is this: If TNC only buys from willing sellers, why do you even need them? If people "really" wanted to sell, why not sell to your agency?


8 posted on 05/30/2006 7:59:32 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: palmer

Thats hard to read ... or is it just me?

All I know about the Nature Conservancy is that when I was last in Boulder, CO the only lawn that was green was their's. Due to drought conditions everyone in town had to abide by water restrictions, but somehow their HQ looked idyllic. Whassup wif dAT?


9 posted on 05/30/2006 8:03:27 AM PDT by BillyBonebrake
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To: hedgetrimmer
Somethings up with our public lands, I have no doubt. The globalists in our government are too tightly tied with Goldman Sachs for it to be otherwise. Putting Paulsen at the head of the Treasury department is further corporatizing the federal government.

Opponents are speaking out loud and clear that they believe, "the next 20 or more years of Forest policy will be founded on the work of an immensely wealthy private corporation (the world's largest private landowner) with its own selfish agendas, minimal, if any, financial transparency, a checkered reputation, and minimal, if any, public accountability."

Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.

The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.

In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government.

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"... the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences." --Dr. Carroll Quigley, "Tragedy and Hope," 1966

10 posted on 05/30/2006 8:13:46 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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To: palmer

TNC is a lefty organization and was exposed a few years ago in a scheme to resell raw land at a loss to supporters as part of a program to limit intrusive development, but the sales generally allow buyers to construct sprawling homes with swimming pools on the environmentally sensitive sites.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/specials/natureconservancy/

They're skunks.


11 posted on 05/30/2006 8:32:20 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: FreeInWV

My agency (the NRCS) doesn't buy land. We're not the BLM.


12 posted on 05/30/2006 8:34:58 AM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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All I know about the Nature Conservancy is that when I was last in Boulder, CO the only lawn that was green was their's

They are the elite, so you can't really expect them to tolerate brown lawns can you?

13 posted on 05/30/2006 8:39:19 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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"In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government."

I trust the CFR about as much as I trust the government these days. Which is to say, not at all.

14 posted on 05/30/2006 11:17:59 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: Czar
not at all

nor do I.

15 posted on 05/30/2006 11:37:21 AM PDT by nicmarlo (Bush is the Best President Ever. Rah. Rah.)
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"My question is this: If TNC only buys from willing sellers, why do you even need them? If people "really" wanted to sell, why not sell to your agency?"

That is actually the relevant question. I understand that selling to the Nature Conservancy creates a situation in which people can continue to use their land as they did before, while ensuring that it won't be developed. But why do we need the Nature Conservancey for that? What are they doing that landowners couldn not do for themselves without a middleman?

16 posted on 05/30/2006 11:44:00 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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To: Sam Cree

Why you dare bring into question their moral superiority? They are a sanctified "Not For Profit" (but for huge salaries & expense accounts) 501(c)3 Corporation! Don't you understand that there are only two sanctified selfless organizations at work in our Democracy, today? Yes! It's true!! One is Multi-Level Government. The other is any Not-For-Profit do gooder organization!!!


17 posted on 05/30/2006 12:07:58 PM PDT by SierraWasp (DEAL? OR NO DEAL? (2006)Arnold? Or NO Arnold? (2008)Gore? Or NO Gore??? NO DEAL!!! (open the case!))
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To: hedgetrimmer

I think you've probably seen these links before. I forget who first posted them at FR.

There is some really informative information.
http://www.discerningtoday.org/


Linked from this site is TakingLiberty that has an interactive presentation that is well worth watching.
It helps make sense of many recent actions by our Government.

http://www.takingliberty.us/
TAKING LIBERTY
How Private Property is Being Abolished in America


18 posted on 05/30/2006 12:27:17 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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>> TNC... exposed a few years ago in a scheme
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/nation/specials/natureconservancy/

Bump! That was an excellent series of articles at the WaPo


19 posted on 05/30/2006 12:31:50 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo
Here's some for you.

Nature's Landlord

May 30, 2003 SUMMARY: The Nature Conservancy is coming under fire after the Washington Post described how the $3 billion environmental charity may have played loose with IRS laws to benefit supporters, including corporations that have paid millions in environmental fees. This story provides a comprehensive overview of how your taxes and donations have been used by The Nature Conservancy, provides links to the Washington Posts "Big Green" series and to a library of supplementary stories.

Nature Conservancy under investigation, suspends operations after Post exposure

FULL TEXT: The Nature Conservancy is coming under fire after the Washington Post described how the $3 billion environmental charity may have played loose with IRS laws to benefit supporters, including corporations that have paid millions in environmental fees.

Questionable practices

In a three-part series, Washington Post Staff Writers Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway detailed questionable practices at the worlds richest environmental group like the following:

Acquiring raw land, attaching development restrictions, then reselling the properties to supporters at greatly reduced prices.
Selling ecologically sensitive land at reduced prices to the organization's trustees for use as home sites.
Conducting land deals that coincide with charitable contributions to the Conservancy from the buyers, who then benefit from significant tax breaks.
Drilling for oil under the breeding ground of endangered species.
Buying land from corporations whose executives sat o­n the nonprofit's governing board.
Accepting cash payments for roughly the amount of a discount that is then written off the buyers' federal income taxes.
Conservancy takes steps to hold off external investigation

To shore up its image The Nature Conservancy hired a PR agency and has put outa call for its supporters to write letters to the editor to protest the Post series, the Post reported. In attempt to head off an outside investigation, like the o­ne that the Post reports is brewing in Congress, the Conservancy has hired a team of lawyers. Meanwhile, the Conservancy has suspended all "conservation buyer" transactions until its board of directors can investigate [itself], according to the Post.

"Big Green" Series

Following is the three part "Big Green" series by Washington Post Staff Writers Joe Stephens and David B. Ottaway:

"Big Green" supplementary stories

Following are supplementary stories to the "Big Green".


20 posted on 05/30/2006 1:34:32 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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