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Neighborhood fees go through roof:Condo,townhouse owners often greeted with a five-figure assessment
Contra Costa Times ^ | 5/29/6 | James Temple

Posted on 05/29/2006 9:35:07 AM PDT by SmithL

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WHAT IS A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION?

An organization that oversees the maintenance and management of common facilities and areas -- such as landscaping, pools, exterior walls and fences -- in townhouse, condominium and other so-called common-interest developments.

WHAT SHOULD YOU DO?

Buyers considering a common-interest development should always scrutinize the association's reserve audit and the past 12 months of board minutes, both of which should indicate anticipated repairs and whether there are adequate funds in the reserves to pay for them.

1 posted on 05/29/2006 9:35:08 AM PDT by SmithL
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WHAT SHOULD YOU DO?

Don't buy a house/condo in a subdivision that has a Homeowners Assc.

2 posted on 05/29/2006 9:41:04 AM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Free Travis McGee!!)
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To: SmithL

Interesting article -- thanks for the post.


3 posted on 05/29/2006 9:50:54 AM PDT by 68skylark
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To: CrawDaddyCA

That is the very best advice. When I bought my place 20 years ago, that was the first issue that got the house removed from the list...CC's&R.


4 posted on 05/29/2006 9:51:58 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: CrawDaddyCA
Amen to that! I've lived in the small townhouse development for 10 years now. There are 28 units.. No pool, No clubhouse, No Nothing, yet the monthly fee has gone from $90 to almost $200. It's become a micro-goverment of "wanna-be landlords" spending like drunken sailors on frivolous cosmetics! I'm outta here as soon as I can find a decent home for under $700,000. I live in NJ.. wish me luck! LOL!
5 posted on 05/29/2006 9:54:10 AM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Liberals see what they believe... Conservatives believe what they see")
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To: SmithL
Speaking from umpteen years of experience in the construction biz, "Condo quality" is a running joke.

Most people involved in condo construction use limited partnerships, fictitious names et al, and a whole series of cut-out dummy companies. Nobody wants to be associated with a condo history.
6 posted on 05/29/2006 10:00:06 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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This happened to me. I bought a condo, read all the minutes and financials before purchasing, and 6 months later was informed that all the roofs need to be replaced and have to pay a special assessment. I tried to fight it because it was not disclosed but couldn't.
7 posted on 05/29/2006 10:01:41 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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I have never lived in a condo or townhouse, but we have owned homes for many years.

I can tell you that every few years, we are hit with a large "maintaince" bill--a new roof, a new plastering job for the pool, new landscaping, etc etc.

I can't imagine that it is any different in a condo or townhome. Property has to be repaired and updated. It's a fact of life--and sometimes, these things cost big bucks.

If we put away say $200/month toward some upcoming repair, chances are it wouldn't be enough to cover the cost of a major repair when the time came.

8 posted on 05/29/2006 10:05:13 AM PDT by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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A responsible Homeowners'Assocaition should agree on a schedule of depreciation based upon a percentage of the appraised value of the common areas coupled with the expected life of the shared capital assets, and the annual association dues should specifically allocate the capital account portion to a fund whose purpose is clearly-defined as capital replacement, separate from an operating fund for such things as insurance and lawn mowing.

In that way each member of the association pays for the depreciation "consumed" while a member of the association. When selling, buyer should compensate seller pro-rata for the value of the accumulated fund since the seller contributed to the depreciation fund while a member of the association.

Buyers should not then be surprised by large special assessments; but they WILL pay larger annual association dues.

Responsible non-profit institutions such as private schools and churches do this. Why shouldn't homneowner associations?

9 posted on 05/29/2006 10:23:55 AM PDT by 1stMarylandRegiment (Conserve Liberty)
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To: SmithL

I think the main objection here is that some "association" is deciding how to spend the "dues" for the "greater good". When a person "owns" property, they don't have to worry about such things. When they buy into one of these communist organizations, then they must abide by the terms of the contract.

I nearly bought a place 10 years ago that was one of 3 units on a lot with a shared driveway. Everything else was perfect but for me, the shared driveway was a deal killer. I ended up with a standalone SFR and have never once regretted it.


10 posted on 05/29/2006 10:34:00 AM PDT by free_at_jsl.com
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That fact doesn't makes it any easier for the typical homeowner to swallow a five-digit assessment. It can be especially difficult, as well as unfair, for recent buyers. They have to pay an equal share of the fees, even though they typically have enjoyed less home value appreciation to offset the cost, and much of the wear and tear occurred under the previous owners' watch

"Unfair" is a word that should be put on Humpty Dumpty's flexible language list. It means whatever you choose it to mean. If you buy a condo, house, or duplex in perfect condition, you will most likely pay more money. If you buy a structure that needs repairs, you should get a discount for purchasing a building in less than perfect condition, but SHOULD expect to be out of money in the near future to make those repairs.

If you overpayed for something because you didn't research or have a building inspector, well, guess who's fault that was? Condo owners should also be aware that they're basically joining another government, and this government will frequently affect them far more personally than the city, state or feds.

11 posted on 05/29/2006 10:39:04 AM PDT by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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"But Morrison was stunned when, as he scanned the notice last June, his eyes landed on the proposed amount: $18,494.27."

Oh, tell me his condo hasn't gone up in value at least that amount since he bought it -- especially after the repairs.

12 posted on 05/29/2006 11:01:06 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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Don't buy a house/condo in a subdivision that has a Homeowners Assc.

Unfortunately most new subdivisions have them. We were among the first to buy in our subdivsion earlier this year, so the HOA isn't active yet. I expect that to eventually change but my plan is to go to the first meeting and shut down the control freaks before they can trample over the rest of us. Our CCRs are pretty minimal, but a control freak can still make life miserable.

13 posted on 05/29/2006 11:07:56 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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I'm outta here as soon as I can find a decent home for under $700,000. I live in NJ.

One good thing about living in NJ: most of the state is near a border to somewhere else. ;-)

14 posted on 05/29/2006 11:12:50 AM PDT by tsomer
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I'm outta here as soon as I can find a decent home for under $700,000.

Are you serious?! I just bought a waterfront home in Pensacola, Fl. for 145k. Save your money and move, my FRiend.

15 posted on 05/29/2006 11:24:18 AM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Free Travis McGee!!)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

If you relocate to Oklahoma, you could find a decent home well under $70,000 and use the remaining $630,000 for some other pursuits.


16 posted on 05/29/2006 11:33:10 AM PDT by dufekin
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on the proposed amount: $18,494.27

I can't believe this was a result of competitive bidding.

17 posted on 05/29/2006 11:36:30 AM PDT by AlBondigas
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"I just bought a waterfront home in Pensacola, Fl. for 145k."

Have you gotten your NEW insurance bill yet?..

BTW,,,I haven't seen a CA since John LaFleur was doing heli-logging in the Carolinas..

18 posted on 05/29/2006 11:39:12 AM PDT by litehaus
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Have you gotten your NEW insurance bill yet?..

Oh, I got it alright. I wasn't too happy, but I expected it to be more.

19 posted on 05/29/2006 11:41:25 AM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Free Travis McGee!!)
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To: divine_moment_of_facts

The cost of insurance and building materials has skyrocketed. People who properly maintain and insure their own homes in a non-association community are facing the same thing.


20 posted on 05/29/2006 11:43:37 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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