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Tap water may raise bladder cancer risk: study
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Posted on 05/28/2006 7:10:39 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: ChildOfThe60s

Read all 4 pages of the article I posted above. They are using Ozone in Europe and much more in the US.


41 posted on 05/28/2006 8:14:44 PM PDT by Revel
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Most tap water drinkers just don't consume that much water daily.

I do. I couldn't afford to pay bottled water prices for all the water I drink. However, the study sounds like bad junk science to me.

42 posted on 05/28/2006 8:14:50 PM PDT by ichabod1 (The Glory Hath Gone Out Of Israel)
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To: Revel

Will do.


43 posted on 05/28/2006 8:15:52 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: Revel

Thats it, no more showers for me!


44 posted on 05/28/2006 8:16:24 PM PDT by ichabod1 (The Glory Hath Gone Out Of Israel)
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To: Perdogg
Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

General Jack D. Ripper
45 posted on 05/28/2006 8:26:56 PM PDT by RedMonqey (People who don't who stand for something, will fall for anything.)
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To: bruinbirdman

pong


46 posted on 05/28/2006 8:27:29 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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To: Moonman62
How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it?
A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.



General Jack D. Ripper
47 posted on 05/28/2006 8:30:22 PM PDT by RedMonqey (People who don't who stand for something, will fall for anything.)
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To: Coleus
Besides chlorine, the other major poison added to our water is fluoride, a carcinogenic industrial waste by product of aluminum, steel, cement, phosphate, and nuclear weapons manufacturing.

The original reports that fluoride reduced dental caries in children were intentional misrepresentations of a study on fluorsis (mottling and weakening of teeth caused by fluoride) done by the U.S.Public Health Service, which reports to the Secretary of the Treasury. At the time of the report, the Secretary was Andrew Mellon, the largest stock holder in Alcoa aluminum. Fluoride is the major pollutant produced in the making of aluminum. The original author of the report has since testified under oath the the published conclusions supporting fluoridation are simply not justified by his data.

Some of the reports that later showed a more legitimate reduction in dental caries with fluoride neglected to mention that this was not a reduction in the number of caries per tooth, but in caries per person. You see, the fluoride added to our water supply causes a delay in teething in children. The fewer caries were due to fewer teeth!

Others of the reports only dealt with naturally occurring fluoride, which is in the form of calcium fluoride, and is lower doses has mixed results - partially favorable. The sodium fluoride that is added to our water is a damn poison. It sucks calcium out of the body, and is a major suspect in the increase in osteoporosis in the last few decades.

I have seen no convincing study that adding sodium fluoride reduces cavities.

Chlorine and Fluorine are two of the most reactive and dangerous elements in the Periodic Table. They are both produced in huge amounts as industrial waste from various manufacturing processes.

Try a Google search for: water supply fluoride chlorine industrial waste cancer to see more of what I mean.

Even some canned soda's and bottled waters have Fluoride.

I recommend running ones drinking water through filters. My favorite filter website is: Pure Water Products, LLC, Denton, Texas. They have a variety of filters, some of which remove chlorine and some fluoride. One can get some really great water this way.

This link between fluoride and bladder cancer has been reported before, such as in:

SCIENCE WATCH Newsletter: New Report Bolsters Fluoride-Cancer Link
DIRECTORY: FAN > Health > Newsletter > Issue # 11

FAN SCIENCE-WATCH

May 20, 2004

Bulletin #11: New Report Bolsters Fluoride-Cancer Link

by Michael Connett

The evidence that fluoride may cause cancer has just become substantially stronger.

In the May 19th issue of the Journal of the National Cancer Institute, a 12-year follow-up study of workers in the cryolite industry confirms earlier reports of a link between occupational fluoride exposure and bladder & lung cancer.

In the May 19th paper, the authors - Dr. Philippe Grandjean & Jorgen Olsen – report:

“We previously reported the cancer morbidity from 1943 through 1987 for 422 male cryolite workers employed for more than 6 months at the mill from 1924 through 1961. We observed excess incidences of primary cancer of the lungs and of urinary bladder tumors (including bladder papilloma)... We have now extended the follow-up of this cohort by 12 years, at the end of which the total percentage of cohort members who had died exceeded 90%. These findings amplify our previous observation of increased bladder cancer rates among cryolite workers... We therefore believe that fluoride should be considered a possible cause of bladder cancer and a contributory cause of primary lung cancer.”

This study is extremely important for a number of reasons.

The above is from the site Fluoride Action Network.
48 posted on 05/28/2006 9:02:22 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: LukeL

And the basis for soft drinks, beer etc is ( drum roll please) water. The water comes from the local utility where the bottler is located.


49 posted on 05/28/2006 9:04:51 PM PDT by tomh68
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To: Revel
To remove chlorine from your shower:

The High Output Shower Filter

from

Box 2783, Denton, TX 76202 | pwp@pwgazette.com | ( 940 ) 382 – 3814

 

Note :
The picture above includes the shower head.
We sell the filter only, without the head.
See explanation below.

Probably you have heard that you are likely to take more chlorine into your body from your shower than from the water you drink. The skin soaks up chlorine readily,  and you breathe in much air-borne chlorine in the shower.. A good shower filter protects you and adds to the pleasure of showering. Your skin, your hair, and your eyes will feel the difference.

Shower filter technology is a challenge. Filter carbon, which is the hands-down champion at chlorine removal, has limited effectiveness in shower filters, where a small amount of the filtering agent is required to handle a large amount of water quickly. The added challenge of hot water adds another complication.

Because of these problems, most shower filter makers rely on a metallic medium called KDF. Shower filter sellers typically show impressive charts that demonstrate long-term removal of chlorine. However, if you read the tests carefully, you’ll see that they apply to “free chorine” (chlorine that has not combined with other constituents in water), and the unfortunate reality is that KDF-filters have little effect on “total chlorine” (combined chlorine), which is the form in which chlorine exists in most tap water. In fact, chlorine is often added at the water plant as a blend with ammonia called “chloramine.” KDF is not effective at removing chloramine or combined chlorine in general.

Although Sprite has added a patented mineral salt to its main KDF formula for the removal of certain forms of combined chlorine, you should not expect Sprite filters to remove chloramine in all applications.

For some time, we sold only one of the several Sprite filter styles—the one that seems to us the most effective and practical shower filter currently manufactured. It’s the “High Output Shower Filter,” which uses a replaceable filter cartridge. The Sprite cartridge features a KDF/mineral salt combination whose lifespan depends on the ratio of free to total chlorine in the water treated as well, of course, as the number of showers taken. The manufacturer recommends replacement after six to eighteen months. We’ve found that on our local water eight to twelve months is a typical replacement figure.

The above is from: Pure Water Products, LLC, Denton, Texas.
50 posted on 05/28/2006 9:06:22 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: corkoman

and irish whiskey


51 posted on 05/28/2006 9:11:47 PM PDT by sgtyork (Prove to us that you can enforce the borders first.)
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To: Coleus; little jeremiah

Funny, I read of a study some time ago that stated drinking MORE water reduced the risk of bladder cancer, working on the theory that it diluted the toxins in the urine and exposed the bladder to less of them.


52 posted on 05/28/2006 9:14:35 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: tubebender
Carbon filters do remove chlorine, though the chlorine can reduce the life of the filter dramatically. You can get better filter life with a compound filter that first uses a pre-stage KDF 55 or similar filters before the carbon. See further What's KDF and How Effective is it in Removing Chlorine?

Removing the fluoride requires yet a different filter, less commonly used, but now also readily available. I recommend a two or three stage under sink filter to get good water. You can get all the filtering you need with the right combination of filters in the first two stages, and then add a nice polishing filter to restore some healthy minerals and taste in the third stage.

53 posted on 05/28/2006 9:16:44 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: ichabod1
As best as I can tell, there is more junk science on the side favoring adding chlorine and fluoride to our water than there is on the side opposing it.
54 posted on 05/28/2006 9:18:28 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: tomh68
The water in soft drinks will tend to have the chlorine removed, as it interferes with the taste and other (sometimes quite unhealthy) minerals and chemicals in the drink.

Fluoride is tasteless and frequently found in soft drinks, thanks to using municipal water with it.

55 posted on 05/28/2006 9:20:06 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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To: Revel

Ozone is very corrosive. It's a lung irritant and causes breathing problems in people. Ozone alerts are issued by the NWS when it gets too high.


56 posted on 05/28/2006 9:21:00 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Coleus

For the ugly truth about this lethal substance, see dhmo.org


57 posted on 05/28/2006 9:22:28 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: tubebender
Any word about city water run through a carbon filter under the sink? We use that for our coffee water and use bottled water for carry around drinking.

I don't know, but we have filtered our water (municipality with excess Trihalomethanes in the water supply according to the flyer they sent out) for some time, and if perchance someone makes a pot of coffee from unfiltered water, the taste is so bad we'll dump it.

comparison chart

58 posted on 05/28/2006 9:29:38 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: metmom

I think pure water is good - it's just the tap water that's bad. I haven't drunk tap water in years. Can't stand the smell or taste. I use a Berkefeld purifier and we love it. Costs about $275 and lasts forever. With 4 filters you can make about 40 gallons a day if you keep at it. Not that we need that much! The water tastes great too.


59 posted on 05/28/2006 9:30:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: 43north
In 1940, the Soviets were administering fluoride to inmates in their concentration camps to decrease resistance to authority and induce physical deteriorization.

In 1943, Germany used fluoride in the concentration camps to render the prisoners docile and inhibit the questioning of authority.

An April 29, 1944 Manhattan Project memo, released in 1997, states "Clinical evidence suggests that uranium hexafluoride may have a rather marked central nervous system effect, with mental confusion, drowsiness and lassitude as the conspicuous features...


The above items are from a post on the homesteadingtoday.com website. I have seen other mention of these in Blaylock's book: Health and Nutrition Secrets, but don't have online links to this. Blaylock references his studies carefully and so far I have found him to be a reliable reporter.
60 posted on 05/28/2006 9:35:02 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (We are but Seekers of Truth, not the Source.)
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