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Whatever Happened To Fidelity?
Concerned Women for America ^ | 5/23/06 | Janice Shaw Crouse

Posted on 05/27/2006 11:02:16 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: wagglebee
lies consume innocence.

Mr. Clinton, Mr. Kerry, Mr. Durbin, Mr. Kennedy, Ms. Feinstein, Mrs. Boxer, Mr. Schumer. You're being called out here.

41 posted on 05/27/2006 2:01:19 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Why isn't there an "NRA" for the rest of my rights?)
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To: woodb01

Major BTTT for your links.


42 posted on 05/27/2006 2:01:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Tall_Texan

Not everything can be traced by to politics. We live in an age of very little fidelity in any field. It amazes me that some folks believe that marriage is immune...


43 posted on 05/27/2006 2:04:01 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Khankrumthebulgar

what does the stat which you state non source that women initiate 75 percent of the divorces have to do with infidelity?


44 posted on 05/27/2006 2:05:17 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Impeach the Boy

"A woman we know decided she didn't what to be married anymore and just divorced her husband."

Only she and her husband knew the real reason.


45 posted on 05/27/2006 2:07:08 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: Tall_Texan

Oops, sorry. My first response was based on a misreading of your post. My answer -- based on a correct reading -- is that we live in an age of Richard III's. Smooth talkers...from Shakespeare:

Let not our babbling dreams affright our souls:
Conscience is but a word that cowards use,
Devised at first to keep the strong in awe:
Our strong arms be our conscience, swords our law.


46 posted on 05/27/2006 2:07:55 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: marajade

Only she and her husband knew the real reason.


Yes, but that shouldn't stop us from speculating. I'll kick it off:

A)Allergic reaction to latex
B) Distaste for Penguins and Puffins.
C)No more wire hangers!
D)Dish versus cable...


47 posted on 05/27/2006 2:10:25 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Riverman94610
Look,the whole fidelity thing went down the drain during the Sixties sexual revolution of which I regrettably admit I was a big advocate of back then.

All that has really changed is that it used to be "out of sight, out of mind". Mistresses and affairs have never been uncommon, but they were relatively discreet. People just care less about appearance now, and I would guess that is in part because people are more anonymous now in many ways.

48 posted on 05/27/2006 2:16:30 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: wagglebee
I can't tell you how many times I've read, just in the last week, that "men aren't wired to be monogamous". That's what happened to fidelity - "science" is telling us that men can't do it, that men can't control themselves.
49 posted on 05/27/2006 2:26:40 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:6)
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To: MarkBsnr

They say that if a man will lie to his wife, he'll lie to anyone... his co-workers, his boss, his siblings, etc. Better watch him carefully.


50 posted on 05/27/2006 2:33:31 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: Riverman94610
I was generally pretty faithful to whoever I was with.

So was my husband.....until he got involved in adultery. How can you be "generally pretty faithful?" LOL You have no idea how funny that sounds. :o)

51 posted on 05/27/2006 3:24:17 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (CONGRESS, YOU BUILD THE FENCE NOW, OR WE*LL VOTE FOR LAWMAKERS WHO WILL!)
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To: durasell

FWIW, businesses have almost always been amoral. People change employers all the time. There's no fidelity or "loyalty" between employers and employees but there never has been so it cannot really be blamed for the decline in marriage fidelity.

OTOH, tales of philadering presidents - going all the way back to JFK and the cheating royals in the UK - somehow serve as an example to the public. Remember the mini-baby boom that took place when Princess Di got pregnant? Suddenly, it was chic to be preggers.

It really *shouldn't* serve as an example. We shouldn't base our morality on fallable heads of state but, for a certain segment, it seems to be true. What was the excuse we heard for two years from the Clintonites? "Everybody has affairs. Everybody lies about sex, etc." They not only were trying to excuse their president, they were sending a signal that such behavior was "ok", even if you weren't the leader of the free world. The media pounded this message home constantly. It should be no surprise that a certain percentage of the peoens took it to heart.

Toss in a media culture that champions immorality and castigates people who are faithful or true to a spouse of the opposite sex and it's easy to see how it signaled open season on cheating.


52 posted on 05/27/2006 3:24:30 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Logophile

I can perhaps give a little insight. I recently dated a divorced man who basically did the same thing (he told his story bit by bit, and no, our relationship didn't last long). He took the "if you don't -feel- like you're in love, you're not in love" thing pretty seriously.


53 posted on 05/27/2006 3:28:38 PM PDT by Seamoth (Kool-aid is the most addictive and destructive drug of them all.)
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To: Tall_Texan

I actually remember when there was loyalty in business -- employers to employees and employees to employers. It did actually exist. Really. Back in the early 1980s I met a guy who was so proud to work for IBM that he had actual letters of praise from a vice president framed in his livingroom. Today the guy would be seen as a joke.

But yeah, it's the media, it's public public figures and all the rest. People see it and figure "no biggie."




54 posted on 05/27/2006 3:31:13 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: wagglebee

Ya wanna know what happened to Fidelity?
Well, do ya?

Ok, she quit working double shifts as a gobbler at the Bunny Ranch, changed her name and married some yokel governor from Arkansas,
then moved to Washington and finally settled as a junior
liberal lesbian/dominatrix in New York.


55 posted on 05/27/2006 3:32:33 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Tall_Texan

It's also discussed more today. More out in the open...


56 posted on 05/27/2006 3:33:58 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: wagglebee
"Whatever Happened To Fidelity?"
While Fidelity has some good offerings like its Contrafund, I find it to be generally overrated. The size has caught up with it, probably. Vanguard offers much better and more cost-effective investment solutions.
57 posted on 05/27/2006 3:34:56 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Alex Murphy

They aren't. Even polygamy wasn't condemned in the Bible till the New Testament. Marriage is a relatively unnatural institution created for one purpose only: to raise children.


58 posted on 05/27/2006 3:38:00 PM PDT by Seamoth (Kool-aid is the most addictive and destructive drug of them all.)
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To: marajade

YOU obviously did not read all my posts. She was found to be having an affair. Besides, you are totally missing the point. She was a SUNDAY SCHOOL teacher who laid claim to being a Christain. Christ, the Apostle Paul, and the Bible as a whole, are CLEAR about grounds for divorce. She filed, CLAIMING he was abusive, etc...Told BIG outright lies about him in general, all in an attempt to provide cover for the dirty deed she was going to do.

The TRUTH later came out..SHE WAS HAVING AN AFFAIR, yet spent months building a "case" that she just wasn't happy....he never cared....yada, yada.


59 posted on 05/27/2006 3:59:46 PM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: wagglebee; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Humanity has lost its moral compass.

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60 posted on 05/27/2006 4:00:53 PM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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