Posted on 05/27/2006 6:44:18 AM PDT by Perdogg
Re. Ninian:
On the other hand...there seems to be hope when even dopers are reading FR.
It probably has something to do with the fact that the average pot head doesn't go through 20 to 60 joints a day.
Thank you for demonstrating the WODDS - the War on Drugs Derangement Syndrome - symptoms include avoiding all facts that speak to the inanity of the situation.
Ok, you convinced me - pot smoking does cause cancer - you are right and all these other scientist/clinicians are wrong. Thank goodness we have you to guide us through the dark.
... yeah, but it still makes white women have sex with colored jazz musicians
Oh, really? Well, I smoke regularly, and I work in the oil & gas industry. I'll compare paychecks to any Drug Warrior assclown on this forum.
It's not the drug, it's the person that uses it.
Yes or at least former dopers. But then, I am a former Democrat and former liberal, so there is always hope for our liberal friends to find their way back from the dark side.
I would still smoke if it was legal and it would not put my job at risk. I used to drink a lot more when I was young than I do these days too. I rarely drink at all now, but I was also glad to hear that having an occasional drink is good for you.
When I did drink and smoke dope, I drank and smoked a good deal. I did more dangerous and stupid things I regretted doing while under the influence of alcohol than I ever did while under the influence of pot. As a matter of fact, I never did anything dangerous or that I regretted doing while under the influence of pot. Maybe I ate too many cookies once or twice after getting stoned.
I took a freshman biology exam high on hash once. I had a good grade going into the final and I studied for the final, but right before I was going to go take the test, I was talked into having a couple hits of hashish. It turned out to be super strong, and the walls of the elevator were vibrating and pulsating while I rode it down to the street level on my way to the test. I knew that I was really high, but there was no turning back now. I managed to get to the classroom and take a seat. They passed out the test and I got into it. A person who is high can really get into doing one thing well. They cannot do two things at the same time though, but I only needed to concentrate on taking the final.
I was the first one done. I sat there for a while checking over my answers, waiting for at least one other person to turn in their exam, but after a while, I got tired of waiting and I since was not really able to concentrate on checking my answers and the ones I did check seemed fine, I got up and turned in test, the first one done out of 220 students in a large hall.
A couple days later, with some trepidation, I checked on the board to see how I did on the test. I started at the bottom and scanned the posted grades to find mine. I got the best grade out of more than 200 students. And I was high as a kite while I took that test. I never tried it a second time.
As far as being permanently stupid from smoking pot, I lived down in Jamaica and Colombia for a few years, smoking a ton of dope, before I came back to the states and finished my undergrad degree. I had a 4.0 average. I took both the GMAT and the LSAT and scored in the top couple percent on both, without ever taking any sort of review class or doing much prep work at all.
Based on my grades and test scores, I got scholarship offers to the Mays Business School at Texas A&M and to the University of Chicago and the University of Houston Law Schools.
Saying that a person is made permanently stupid from smoking dope is stupid.
The study population was limited to people who were younger than 60 because people older than that would probably not have used marijuana in their teens and early adult years.
People who may have smoked marijuana in their youth are just now getting to the age when cancers are being seen,” Tashkin says.
Right. </s>
They didn't study age 60 and older because that's when they get lung cancer!
I once worked with a young man who smoked like a chimney AND smoked pot. He died from lung cancer in his 30s though I don't know if it was one or the other or a combination. How many pot smokers do both?
Most likely they excluded 60+ as the incidence of lung cancer increases across all demographics (smokers and non-smokers) after age 60. This adds variability into the data and makes it harder to draw causality to the findings.
--Saying that a person is made permanently stupid from smoking dope is stupid.
It was an exageration. You take things too personal.
By the way, I have a college story I much prefer. There was a software engineer I worked with who took some classes at a liberal arts college here that I had also attended. We had to take a humanities series that was great up until the final class which was present day and pure propaganda. I quit the school rather than finish that class which made me sick. Anyway this guy hated that class as much as I did and one day the teacher said "What will you tell someone about starting out in a society such as ours where no matter how hard they try they may not succeed". He hollered out "I'd tell them to stay away from the weed". I thought it was hilarious.
The only value of this study is that smoking pot does not give lung cancer at the rate cigarettes do before age 60. That's not saying much though because most cigarette smokers get lung cancer after age 60 and it is obvious that inhaling 3 cigarettes per day is safer than 40.
Any study that promotes illegal pot smoking as a safer thing to do than cigarette smoking should not be made front page news in the family newspaper, the same newspaper that promotes cigarette smoking as evil incarnate.
Some young pot smokers also smoke cigarettes and later try harder illegal drugs. We don't need them thinking pot is ok because it doesn't cause cancer. It sometimes does cause cancers among other serious problems such as mental health issues.
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