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HIV Origin 'Found In Wild Chimps'
BBC ^ | 5-25-2006

Posted on 05/25/2006 2:14:18 PM PDT by blam

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To: madison10

It was probably someone butchering a chimp that nicked themselves with a knife and absorbed blood through the cut.


21 posted on 05/25/2006 3:07:23 PM PDT by Tailback
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To: blam
The origin of HIV has been found in wild chimpanzees living in southern Cameroon, researchers report.

When was Clinton over there? :o)

22 posted on 05/25/2006 3:08:10 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (CONGRESS, YOU BUILD THE FENCE NOW, OR WE*LL VOTE FOR LAWMAKERS WHO WILL!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell; MarcusTulliusCicero

HIV is the virus itself. HIV = Human Immunodeficiency Virus.

AIDS is the disease caused by the virus. AIDS = Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome.

In short, the HIV causes AIDS by gradually killing off the immune system. When you say someone "has HIV" that means that they have contracted the virus. When you say someone "has AIDS" that means that they are showing symptoms of immune system deficiency.

The reason why someone can have HIV but not yet have AIDS is simply because they have the virus (HIV) but it hasn't yet killed off enough of their immune system for them to show symptoms of immune deficiency (AIDS).

As for the chimps, they have a closely related virus called SIV, which means Simian Immunodeficiency Virus. It's correct that the chimps do not develop SAIDS (the chimp version of AIDS) from the SIV that is endemic to their species.

Generally speaking, different apes and monkeys have slightly different strains of SIV and they are adapted to the version endemic to their species, so it doesn't kill them. However, when primates contract a version that is not endemic to their species, they do typically get SAIDS and die.

What this basically means is that SIV has been around long enough that monkeys and apes that carry versions of it have developed resistance. By contrast, HIV is so new that very few humans appear to be resistant, though contrary to popular opinion some people are clearly resistant to infection by HIV, while others are clearly resistant to developing AIDS even if they contract HIV.

In other words, if enough time passed and HIV was not controlled or eliminated then presumably humans in general would adapt to it just like the apes and monkeys have adapted to SIV, and then HIV would not bother us anymore. However, this will require hundreds, if not thousands, of years of evolution before it happened.


23 posted on 05/25/2006 3:10:36 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: madison10
Chimps have been known to bite humans...and kill children. Not surprising that some type of cross infection would have occurred. Chimps have also been hunted by humans, for various reasons...most had nothing to do with anything even remotely puerile.
24 posted on 05/25/2006 3:15:45 PM PDT by Katya (I)
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To: Rodney King

chop the raw liver out of a chimp, grow smallpox vaccine on it, filter it, and squirt it into the mouths of millions of black Africans wanting to be immune from smallpox. Some of them are going to have cancer sores on their gums...


25 posted on 05/25/2006 3:26:35 PM PDT by Sundog (cheers.)
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To: Sundog

...That's Canker sores on their gums...


26 posted on 05/25/2006 3:29:35 PM PDT by Sundog (cheers.)
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To: blam

That thread of yours is where I got the idea I read all of your posts that I see Bill
thanks


27 posted on 05/25/2006 3:42:29 PM PDT by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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To: blam

Again with the monkeys!?
I used to think they were cute until I read what the Jungle Book had to say about them. I LMAO!


28 posted on 05/25/2006 3:47:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Shawnlaw (No NAIS! And the USDA can bugger off, too!)
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To: blam
I've got a left of center friend who's completely positive that AIDS is a government conspiracy, set to wipe out homosexuals and drug addicts.

Mark

29 posted on 05/25/2006 3:49:47 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: Rodney King
Was it from eating chimps, getting bitten by them, or using them in perverted sexual stunts?

My first guess would be while butchering them, or eating improperly cooked meat.

Mark

30 posted on 05/25/2006 3:50:54 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Now, I believe the difference between HIV and AIDs, is that HIV is the disease without any symptoms which can eventually develop into AIDs. Those with HIV are asymptomatic.

I thought that HIV is the virus, while AIDS is the manifestation of symptoms. But I could be wrong. It happened once before.

Mark

31 posted on 05/25/2006 3:53:07 PM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: blam

So Cheetah was Patient Zero.


32 posted on 05/25/2006 3:54:22 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: woofie

I guess what happens in Cameroon doesn't stay in Cameroon.


33 posted on 05/25/2006 3:58:10 PM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: MarcusTulliusCicero
That's why it's the butchering rather than the eating. Rabbits also carry some diseases that are blood borne. (Tularemia? Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever? I'm not sure.)
34 posted on 05/25/2006 4:13:58 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic

True enough. Not having much butchering experience (well, except of mice), I'd forgotten that there will be the inevitable misses with the blade!


35 posted on 05/25/2006 4:15:55 PM PDT by MarcusTulliusCicero
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To: blam; windcliff
Did it come from a monkey bite or someone eating a monkey?

Did it come from someone that was confused thinking see monkey, do monkey instead of monkey see, monkey do.

36 posted on 05/25/2006 4:17:44 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: madison10
Someone got WAAYYY too close to the chimps. 'Course maybe they just ate wrong portions of chimp body. (gross either way)

I always suspected that, but I thought even homosexual perverts would not be that gross.

But then again........

37 posted on 05/25/2006 5:29:56 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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38 posted on 05/25/2006 5:31:12 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: BurbankKarl

Patient Zero or SV-40 contaminated vaccines?


39 posted on 05/25/2006 7:04:05 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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