Posted on 05/21/2006 4:58:16 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
It's costing $75 million per mile. Traffic might get a little better, too, when it's done, but it's not stopping any illegal immigration.
Just build the fence. Print more money if you have to.
Did we worry about costs when we fought WWII? Our national sovereignty is at stake. We are being invaded by up to 160,000 people a month (with 120,000 being caught and returned). We spent $11 to $18 billion annually enforcing the no-fly zones against Iraq for almost a decade. The cost issue is a red herring tossed out by the opponents of the House bill. Their biggest concern is really not about the costs, but the fact that the fences might work.
What price do we place on preservation of culture and our childrens future?
I'd say its worth every penny.
If cost is really the problem, set up an account to accept donations.
I'll buy my foot of wall.
I bet the funds would come pouring in.
I know!! But when the US Government is doing it...
Now, these figures are high, because they are lifted from the costs of the Israeli wall. Here, we wouldn't have landmines and all the bells & whistles.
But that's okay- let em take the high estimate and compare it to the social costs. It just makes the economic point more powerfully, because it pales in comparison regardless.
SUMMARY
Forty-four States and the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico have constructed highway traffic noise barriers; six States and the District of Columbia have not. The most notable trend in highway traffic noise barrier construction is that SDOTs spend more than $100 million of highway program funds annually for this form of noise abatement. Starting in 1992, SDOTs have averaged spending more than $139 million per year. Since the first highway traffic noise barrier was constructed, sixty-five percent (65%) of all spending has been for Type I projects, and twenty-nine percent (29%) for Type II projects.
Most barriers have been made from concrete or masonry block, range from 9-17 feet in height, and average $16-21 per square foot in cost.
http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/noise/barrier/tintro.htm
Note: Keep in mind the cost per foot above is not linear cost, while the cost per foot quoted above is linear cost.
Cheap at half the price.
Compared to what's at risk, it's a bargain.
Bingo.
Using Mexican labor.
Just further evidence that the wall should be built privately - because the government can't build squat without overspending by at least 10X. For $3 Million per mile, they should be able to build it, and keep armed guards for at least a few years...and build a highway that runs parallel...
What is this - an effort by GW to backpedal away from a wall? IT's too costly???
If the fence can't be built for significantly less, then someone is padding their bank account...
To put this in other terms, each state is spending the equivalent of 33 miles of wall cost each year. If the states stopped for one year and contributed their noise budget for this wall, we could have the funds to do over 1,500 miles.
But my point here is that the cost of building a 1951 mile wall is about 3% of the cost of doing nothing. The burden on services and the growth of government is WAY MORE EXPENSIVE.
Illegal immigration makes ZERO economic sense.
Given the demographic and economic pressures from Mexico and Latin America, it is not a matter of if physical barriers will be built, but when.
Sheesh. We've spent more than that in a week in a corrupt cesspool named New Orleans.
Agreed, although I'd rephrase that last sentence from 'great' progress to 'some' progress.
And, we're going to continue to see 'hit' pieces on the border security issue, especially the wall topic. This is not over by a long shot.
My ideal scenario would be where Congress comes to grips with the security issue first. Once a reasonable plan is agreed upon for security, then we can take up the immigration issue. THEN I'd be somewhat more amenable to compromise. Congress is bringing much of this problem on themselves by insisting on tying the two issues together.
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