Posted on 05/17/2006 7:47:58 AM PDT by Pukin Dog
Edited on 05/17/2006 8:30:59 AM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]
A couple days ago my cousin was trying to get a number from information and had a terriable time getting the operator to understand the word she was saying so she started to spell the word,needless to say it didn't work either. My cousin did aski to speak to a supervisor and told her she wanted to speak to someone who spoke english and the operator got nasty and said and said they could hire anyone they want and in fact most of their workers were hispanic! I guess those job are the ones they keep talking about that Americans don't want!
GMTA
And as far as the Miers mess, why are you still dwelling on it? It's over.
And I see that you are saying that MY comment is the type to drive you away. Well, you were threatening that before I said a word.
I have spent the last 2 weeks seeing the President that I admire and trust denigrated by a bunch of classless critics who don't have any idea of what is involved in the presidency, and can only gripe that their way wasn't immediately chosen by the President as the way to go. I simply am not going to cater to this any more.
Not in my mind. Just correcting the record in regards to your claim that Texaggie is a troll.
I can't figure out why he voted against that amendment yesterday.
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An elaborate game of chess is being played, perhaps. If the Senate bill holds that nothing can be done to address those already inside our borders until the southern border is "secure" maybe that would be a poison pill, stopping all progress, and leading to a continuation of the situation that exists today -- by claiming that the border would NEVER be secure, no matter how high the wall, etc.
Maybe, these Senators want to get Something into Conference so that status quo can begin to change.
"Please don't be insulting," don't use profanity, don't spam keywords, all ways to avoid getting banned. Thank you.
"I don't agree with him on immigration either, but we got Sam Alito, baby."
Pukin Dog, I'm not a BorderBot. I want a Catholic America that outlaws abortion.
The REASON we got Sam Alito was because people like me were deadly serious that we were going to walk out of the Republican Party, fold our arms and stay home if the GOP went ahead with the Miers travesty. They looked into our eyes and realized "My GOD, they're SERIOUS", and they flinched.
That's why we have Sam Alito.
I have listened to the BorderBots. They are as deadly serious about their fence as me and folks like me were about Miers and the Supreme Court. Deadly serious. The difference is that the President has not taken them seriously and did not flinch.
The result is predictable.
I want the GOP to win in November.
But it can't keep Congress if the BorderBots go.
And they are going.
I understand them. I don't agree with them, but I understand them. And they are as serious as I was.
We need to give them their damned fence.
They can't get everything they want.
Bush wants guest worker. They don't.
But if they got their fence, they'd have something, they'd have a victory, and they'd have HOPE. They'd also have something to DEFEND.
As it is, they got the finger.
And they're going to give US the finger in November.
It's not as though they didn't give us fair warning.
They've been screaming it.
We didn't listen, and now it's going to hurt.
Once we've lost, this year, we WILL listen next year, and ilico presto the platform will be a fence, and the nominee will talk about a real fence.
I'd prefer that we not have to go through the intervening defeat.
The border fence is Harriet Miers.
But we GOT Alito.
And I never said there wasn't room for legitimate dissent and anger. I'm not delighted with some things the president has done either. And don't get me started on the Republicans in Congress.
What I'm talking about are posters who we've never seen post before but they signed up years ago. If you check their posting history, they waited until now to post and don't post anything except criticism of the president or Republicans.
And when those same posters start talking about third parties or staying home to teach the Republicans a lesson, then I think they are opinion shapers and trolls.
Mine would have included a line something like this:
The Immigrationbots are unreasonable, and would prefer to use their keyboards to spew at Bush. When he gives them the beginnings of what they have asked for explicitly, their response is not "OK, good beginning, let's work," but "You didn't give us all we wanted, so we aren't playing."
For some reason folks around here are unwilling to call these people what they are. They are not interested in the hard, boring, adult work that would require them to sit down and discuss real world issues and methods of achieving our common goals. They'd rather strut and use their blogs and posts to call the most powerful man on Earth names, all the while demanding our national problem be solved right now, instantly, 100% their way.
These same people quote Ronald Reagan on their website, never addressing the fact that George Bush as of this moment has done far more to address this problem than Reagan ever did--except that Bush is just trying for an unwise Amnesty law, while Reagan SIGNED one.
The Minutemen as recently as LAST MONTH asked for National Guard to be put on the ground.
A month later, Bush delivered.
Now they say that's not enough.
Immigrationbots have been saying all along that a wall needs to go up.
Yesterday on Limbaugh Cheney went on the record saying walls/fences will go up.
Now they say that's not enough.
In 1973, anti-abortion forces demanded Roe v. Wade be overturned. Over THIRTY YEARS LATER that still hasn't happened, but Bush is trying through his SCOTUS choices.
You folks expect the situation to instantly alter, though this problem has taken over the headlines only in the last month.
Sorry. You're not some special class that needs to be tended to instantly. You have to WORK, not whine, not sit out votes, like all the rest of us.
Welcome to the adult world.
They have largely done what they were sent there to do, and more than just quote unquote conservatives (whatever that means) sent them there. It is simply irrational to expect the President or any represetnative to march lock-step with your paticular views. The president represents ALL Republican's, and indeeed, all people of whatever paticular political affiliation.
I don't Nino - I think the dems will use everything to destroy this president and the GOP as we see daily in the media.
We have to work together because we have awesome efforts against the GOP and conservatism. To do otherwise is simply pure stupidity.
The GOP offers a menu of socialist policy, big-government spending, foreign interventionism, state subsidies, political influence peddling, abuse of power, and general disregard for the constitution.
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Is that even the point?
Unless and until there were enough critical mass of a MORE CONSTITUTIONALLY FAITHFUL party WHICH HAD A REALISTIC CHANCE of carrying any election for any position
then
the GOP is the best and only realistic hope we have to even SLOW THE GROWTH OF THE INFLUENCE OF THE COMMUNIST, MARXIST, GESTAPO, MACHIAVELLIAN DIMRATS.
I don't think any of us think the GOP is perfect. They ARE what we have to work within to help our beleagured Republic and it's assaulted Constitution.
Am I missing something?
And banning posters based on the keywords they post isn't petty?
Forum management is exhibiting an extreme fear of open discussion by thinking conservatives as this nation slides towards socialist globalism, which will be greatly accelerated by the Presidential/Senatorial amnesty.
However juvenile posting keywords may be ... and I've done it, I don't need to tell you ... and YOUR buddies have done it, also ... the other threats that we have been receiving, including a death threat that was posted yesterday and left up on forum for 2 hours, those are plain sinister.
It's clear there isn't room for some of us in the Big Tent, but why the tactics to purge so many posters as is going on now?
Watch me.
It's still up in the air .. but I will say that I will be happy to see McCain's bill fail
What a nonsensical post! You honestly believe only one side calls names? And you wonder why some of us don't take you seriously.
Again, your history is faulty.
Reagan nominated Bork. The Democrat Senate rejected him. Reagan nominated Ginsburg, who was forced to withdraw. He then turned to Kennedy, who was confirmable.
Because the Senate was Democrat, and because of the Borking, Bush 41 nominated Souter, the "stealth" candidate with no record, who everyone at the time, including the liberals, thought was a conservative. Because he had nothing to attack, he was confirmable.
You do understand that Presidents cannot appoint SCOTUS Justices without a Senate vote? Because of that they have to nominate confirmable candidates.
Reagan's first choice was Bork, not Kennedy. Because the Senate went Democrat in 1986, he didn't get him. Because Bork didn't get on the Court, we didn't get a conservative majority and instead of overturning Roe the Court reaffirmed Roe in the Casey case.
It has taken 20 years to get a second chance at a conservative majority on SCOTUS. If the Republican-bashers persuade the base to stay home this fall, the Senate will again go Democrat and we will not get another nominee like Roberts or Alito, because Presidents have to play the hand they are dealt.
Show me where I said that. You cannot because I didn't.
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