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John Stossel: Don't Put Much Stock in TV Experts
Creator's Syndicate ^ | May 17, 2006 | John Stossel

Posted on 05/17/2006 3:02:05 AM PDT by RWR8189

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To: RWR8189

I don't believe in any of that investing and other things like that..I take my money and bury it in the back yard..wife says I should at least bury it in a box..but I don't believe in such new age idees..


21 posted on 05/17/2006 6:21:19 AM PDT by BerniesFriend
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To: Sam Cree

People who criticize Cramer's stock picks miss the point, I think. He gives insights in how traders think and demonstrates that you don't need a crystal ball to make money in the market.

In my experience, buying stocks is relatively easy and the TV experts sometimes do give useful tips. Knowing when to sell is a lot harder, and you almost never hear anyone talk about this.


22 posted on 05/17/2006 7:02:34 AM PDT by joylyn
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To: joylyn
In my experience, buying stocks is relatively easy and the TV experts sometimes do give useful tips. Knowing when to sell is a lot harder, and you almost never hear anyone talk about this.

You're preaching to the choir here. I bought Intel low but forgot the "sell high" part before the 2000 Clinton stock market crash.

23 posted on 05/17/2006 7:14:26 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Never ask a Kennedy if he'll have another drink. It's nobody's business how much he's had already.)
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To: RWR8189

The fella Stossel mentions in the article is Burton G. Malkiel, who I think is still around. I've got a well-worn copy of his "A Random Walk Down Wall Street" which is one of the best primers on investing for the individual around, several editions/printings.


24 posted on 05/17/2006 7:30:05 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: joylyn

I'm kind of a fan of Cramer...I don't get cable, so haven't seen his show, but I read his autobiography, "Confessions of a Street Addict," I think it's called, very entertaining.

He comes on the Glen Beck show at times, which is weird, since he's a liberal, but him and Glen seem to get along.

In any case, I usually enjoy Cramer's comments on the market and the folks who are in it.


25 posted on 05/17/2006 7:34:08 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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To: oblomov
Good advice. Most people (i.e. those who are able to spend fewer than 3-5 hours a week keeping up with their investments and financial news) are probably better off simply buying a well-designed portfolio of ETFs or no-load mutual funds, rather than trade.

Also suggest using dollar cost averaging with no-load, low expense funds that have shown solid returns over the long run.

26 posted on 05/17/2006 7:34:19 AM PDT by Starboard (Liberal superiorists hate the system that allows average people to make more money than they do.)
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To: RWR8189; rhema

BTTT


27 posted on 05/17/2006 7:49:22 AM PDT by Caleb1411 ("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own." G. K. C)
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To: RWR8189

I made the determination a long time ago that none of these clowns have the slightest idea of what they are talking about. They make a good guess once in a while and they are lionized for awhile then forgotten. There is more money to be made by these charlatans by pronosticating than investing in the market. And they are mopping up.


28 posted on 05/17/2006 8:49:24 AM PDT by RichardW
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To: RWR8189
Don't know squat about the market but I do know that the daily spin, i.e.: "yesterday the market sank on reports of...., the market rose on reports of.... and the market declined due to profit taking" are obviously no more than pulling a slip from the hat of useful, if inaccurate, phrases that the media uses to make stupid people think they are getting reliable news.
29 posted on 05/17/2006 9:01:12 AM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Sam Cree

Yea I like Cramer too . I think he said he voted for Reagan in the 80's. He did a good job a few weeks ago of slapping Timmy Russert down on MTP about oil profits. In fact the whole table of experts went real quite after he suggested the Exxon Mobile CEO salary was worth a heck of alot more than Kattie Couric's. It was sight to see Timmy's face after that comment.


30 posted on 05/17/2006 9:08:25 AM PDT by The South Texan (The Democrat Party and the leftist (ABCCBSNBCCNN NYLATIMES)media are a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Hardastarboard

Same reason Einstein and Lindberg (to give two extremes) were clueless about politics.


31 posted on 05/17/2006 9:44:00 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: RWR8189

bttt


32 posted on 05/17/2006 11:02:14 AM PDT by groanup (Shred For Ian)
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To: monocle
1. One risk one seldom mentioned is the risk of withdrawal. If the the stock market is in a bear phase and one is required to withdraw funds, one's capital is disproportionally diminished.

How is this different from having to liquidate loser stocks that your idiot pump-and-dump churn-o-matic broker got you into?

2. Many studies promoting index funds use historical indices to prove the wisdom of investing in such funds. What these studies rarely mention is that indices are constantly by dropping some stocks while adding new stocks.

Yes, and a properly managed index fund will do likewise. So? The return is the same, minus the relatively trivial expenses associated with getting rid of the old stocks and investing in the new. And it's not "constantly" dropping stocks, it's occasionally dropping stocks.

Still way cheaper than your typical churn-o-matic full service stockbroker, like the one who turned my grandfather's millions into chump change for his heirs and hundreds of thousands of dollars of commissions for himself.

3. One should pay close attention to the starting and ending dates of the studies mentioned in point 2 above.

I don't care about short term gains or losses. Dollar-cost average, buy and hold, and don't pay for crooked stockbrokers' yachts, that's my motto. I'll be buying low-fee index funds from the Vanguard and Fidelity web sites regularly for the next 30 years, and I will never sell any of it until I retire. A very few shrewd or lucky traders of individual stocks will do better than I. Most will do worse. Many will do far worse.

-ccm

33 posted on 05/17/2006 11:05:46 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: DH
I also love to ask them if they are such an "expert" why are they working for a living. They should be rich beyond belief.

Hear, hear! The only investment "advice" worthy of the name is now considered insider trading.

-ccm

34 posted on 05/17/2006 11:07:18 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: ccmay
I'll be buying low-fee index funds from the Vanguard and Fidelity web sites regularly for the next 30 years, and I will never sell any of it until I retire

Oh, and I also like exchange-traded funds like SPDR and MDY now that I have a bigger pot of money to invest. I haven't bought an individual stock in several years.

-ccm

35 posted on 05/17/2006 11:09:48 AM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: DH
I also love to ask them if they are such an "expert" why are they working for a living.

For the same reason you have to "call" the Psychic Hotline.

36 posted on 05/17/2006 1:58:49 PM PDT by thulldud ("Muslim Community Leaders Warn of Backlash from Tomorrow's Terrorist Attack")
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To: The South Texan
"In fact the whole table of experts went real quite after he suggested the Exxon Mobile CEO salary was worth a heck of alot more than Kattie Couric's. It was sight to see Timmy's face after that comment."

Outstanding!

37 posted on 05/17/2006 5:27:43 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Delicacy, precision, force)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
All time I am up 8,000 dollars. That is over 4 years playing no more then 300 bucks a trip. But I have had some really good rolls, and when I have bad ones I leave and go home right away. Sees to be a good system.

Stop-loss systems like that don't work. Long term, you *will* lose. But as long as you're having fun and can afford it, no great harm.

38 posted on 05/17/2006 5:37:41 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
But what is it about the stop loss systems that do not work?

For every craps bet you make, the house has a mathematical edge. Over a short period of time, it's not uncommon to beat the odds and come out ahead. But that gets less and less likely the longer you play, and how you split up your sessions has no effect.

Think of flipping a coin that's slightly unbalanced so that it comes up heads 51% of the time. Flip it 100 times and you could easily get more tails than heads. Flip it a million times and it's virtually certain there will be more heads. And it wouldn't make any difference if you did the flips in separate sessions and "stopped" a session whenever you had 10 more heads than tails.

40 posted on 05/18/2006 1:13:00 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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