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Did These Ploys Sneak into Bush's Speech?(Bait & Switch)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 16, 2006 | JOHN O'SULLIVAN

Posted on 05/16/2006 5:36:42 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: MEGoody
Um, I thought we were discussing the Bush immigration plan, not general government corruption.

We are discussing Bush's immigration plan.

The problem with his plan is that it will fail for the same reasons the other attempts to do this did -- the 'system' will not follow the law. In his speach, or in his plan, he doesn't offer any reason to believe his plan will succeed where the others have failed. He didn't even *address* past attempts and why they failed. Instead, he just said he was going to do the same thing others have tried.

I'm surprised at all the folks who seem to have such short memories, personally.

That's why the only solution I can think of is the 'enforcement first' idea. Show us you will give us border security *first*. Only then will we discuss amnesty.

*IF* they do give us real enforcement, then an amnesty would be something that I could discuss. Cuz I then I could be reasonably sure that the situation would not get any worse. But without that enforcement, amnesty creates a nightmare scenario in which millions more illegals would rush here.

"First, stop the bleeding".

241 posted on 05/17/2006 8:12:11 AM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: claudiustg
Oops! Tinfoil hat cutting off circulation there, Mr. Z.

Say what you will. But before you mock my "tinfoil hat", I suggest that you re-read your American history. Tell me, in what direction is this country heading? Towards bigger government or smaller? Towards laissez-faire or towards government interference?

I am not saying that the United States will ever be totalitarian or communist. I am saying that the trend is in that general direction and I'd rather not take my chances. Paranoid? I don't think so.

If I am wrong, then prove it. Currently, you have one ad hominem argument and that's it. That proves nothing. At least I provided evidence. Broad, generic evidence, but still evidence. I can go more in depth, if you'd like...

242 posted on 05/18/2006 7:19:56 AM PDT by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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