Posted on 05/14/2006 12:28:06 PM PDT by notes2005
The vote itself is defining.
Is boxes in the rinos and the left wing democrats.
Bringing up the vote means the state amendments have better chances of passing by even larger numbers.
This is one time where the vote itself continues to be a victory.
I must agree with you. Maybe she's priming for a political run, herself?
the reason the homolobby is focused on the senate is that it will pass with the states.
It also is a difficult and impossible fight if they have to spread out over the 50 states.
Don't forget this is a "defining" issue for these senators. Look how democrats have had to run away from gun control.
IOW never say never.
I don't give a **** what people think about me.
All I care about is the truth with a capital T. If people like the truth, fine. If not, it's their problem.
I wonder why I have my doubts? The only thing you care about in all of life, in all the world, in all of what you understand to be ideas is truth with a capital T? What would change if the highest truth of all was Love with a capital "L"?
---Actually, we don't. Leave this as a States Rights issue where it should be. States can take care of themselves on issues such as protecting traditional marriage, abortion, gun rights, property rights, etc.
I don't want to see our Constitution amended in this manner.---
That would be fine and well if federal judges actually respected states rights and the Constitution. What will you say about it when the Sup Court imposes gay marriage/civil unions, which they almost certainly will at some point?
There are only a few ways to stop this;
1. Keep winning the Presidency and Senate, and always put good judges on the Sup Court: Based on past history, then even if the GOP keeps winning, the latter part of the equation is unlikely as the Souters and O'Connors prove.
2. Pass some sort of Federal Amendment worded in such a way that at a minimum it stops federal courts (and ideally state ones too) from getting involved and imposing any outcome: Here I would agree that the Amendment Frist is likely to bring up will likely fail, again, but there are other ways to word an Amendment that would stop short of banning gay marriage, but would also stop the Courts from sticking thier noses where they don't belong. Part of me wishes they would bring up such an alternative Amendment ( I think Orrin Hatch has sponsored one that basically empowers the states), because it would call the bluff of all those Democrats and Republicans who claimed to support states rights.
3. Accept the inevitabilty of a SCOTUS imposition, and then simply ignore the decision when it comes: Decades of Judicial Supremacy might make this sound radical, but I don't think it would seem so to Thomas Jefferson or Andrew Jackson. If Congress, the President, and enough states were in agreement, then there is nothing the Sup Court could do about it. Admittedly, this is almost unimaginable. Its hard to imagine even a conservative Republican president and Congress having the courage to do this. Any sort of defiance would likely have to come from conservative states, and then it would be fascinating to see how it plays out.
We should be prepared for the possibilty that the GOP elite is going to betray conservatives on this as they have on racial preferences and immigration. As gay marriage/civil unions gains more support in elite circles, then its likely that Republican leaders will grow weary of being associated with the intolerant rabble who, you know, actually vote for them.
If the Sup Court were to impose gay marriage/civil unions in the near future, does anyone think that any part of the GOP leadership, with the possible exception of the House, would wage a vigorous campaign to overturn, thwart, or deny it?
I don't. Instead, I think we would hear a common refrain from the abortion debate; 'the courts have spoken, now its a mater of settled law, time to move on, bow down to your judicial overlords...'
I'm afraid you've got them pegged exactly.
Sure she should. Her approval rating is twice that of his and she's his wife.
It's high because she never says anything. She should keep not saying anything.
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