Posted on 05/12/2006 5:56:29 PM PDT by SandRat
ABOUT FRACKING TIME! Now to get it through the Senate on the President's Desk.
Too late. Wrong use of Armed forces. Big expense. Bad results and GI Border deaths will really anger the heartland.
The Military is for killing enemy soldiers. Only.
252-171; isn't that the exact same margin that passed the "tax cuts for the rich"?
By Jove, I think you are spot on!
This hasn't even been passed by the house. This was only inserted into another defense bill. In order for this to become law, it the House must pass the whole bill, the Senate must likewise, and the President must sign it.
I would be honored to defend my own borders, but using preeexisting military formations to do this job is stupid.
The military is trained to conduct organized offensive and defense operations involving the coordinated movement of hundreds or thousands of people at a time.
WE ALREADY HAVE A BORDER PATROL trained to do the work of patroling. Increase the pay (in order to make sure the quality of recruits does not fall off) and EXPAND IT.
You want the people guarding your border to have law enforcement powers AND military discipline. We need to make the Border Patrol a military organization (with fixed-term enlistments, ROTC scholarships for officers, etc.), allow graduates of all service academies to apply for postings to it, but, like with the Coast Guard, keep it OUT of the Department of Defense so that we can give its personnel law enforcement authority.
All personnel who get RIF'd ("reduction in force") before retirement age -- like the 900 or so Air Force officers getting cut loose this year -- should be offered postings in the new Border Patrol as their previous paygrade. The same could've been done with all the enlisted folks the Navy was letting go last year.
Respectfully Sir, that's NOT important to remember. That's like saying a child has the authority to feed himself in the absence of a negligent parent.
Border security is clearly a FEDERAL responsibility -- it is unbelievably inappropriate for any federal official to even mention the legality of state officials taking the lead on matters that so clearly fall within the federal sphere of responsibility.
Correct. Their proper role would be in the invasion and stabilization of Mexico
Big expense
Incorrect! That expense would represent less than 10% of the GDP squandered on illegal aliens and their successive generations of progeny. Using the military to stop the invasion would be a net cost savings. As an example it costs nearly $15K/yr. to educate just one child born of the consequences of illegal immigration in California and there are millions enrolled in California's public schools.
Bad results and GI Border deaths will really anger the heartland.
Probably not. While military losses are unpalatable, losses that directly benefit, that are tangible and that every citizen can measure on a daily basis are less offensive. As citizens watch the horde subside, public school classrooms return to normal, emergency rooms reestablish to actually treat medical emergencies, freeways become less congested, prison populations dwindle, cars disappear from front lawns and taxes go down, the sacrifice may become less stinging.
Yeah, and it's looking more and more like a token as I continue thinking about it. They do this while offering amnesty up as a compromise yet again in the Senate. If it's still amnesty, one wonders where the 'compromise' was.
Can you say "Third party".. :)
"The act specifies that such a move must be made at the request of the secretary of Homeland Security, who must certify that the action "is necessary to respond to a threat to national security posed by the entry into the United States of terrorists, drug traffickers, or illegal aliens."
So what do we have NOW?? Schoolkids from Mexico crossing our borders???
If the Posse Comitatuts Act prevents the military from being used for domestic purposes, border defense is OBVIOUSLY not a dmoestic issue when the creatures violating our borders are not American citizens and coming from another country!!
Did the House at least, authorize arming the National Guard, or are they to use stale totillas as weapons???
Silly objections.
So what in the hell are they doing on South Korea's, Afghanistan's, Irag's, Bosnia's and Germany's borders?
Those are bonafide military assignments.
Our border deal is a civil police job...a task for securty guards...this is not a military assignment..
Some people can't seem to understand the obvious difference. "Can't" or, in reality. "Won't".
But there is one.
Don't know yet
According to who, you?
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