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Victor Davis Hanson: In the Eye of the Beholder. Imagine if we’d reported on WWII the way we do now
NRO ^ | May 12, 2006 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 05/12/2006 4:41:46 AM PDT by Tolik

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To: Tolik

Bump.


121 posted on 05/19/2006 9:18:27 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood ("left unchecked, Saddam Hussein...will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton)
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To: billbears; LS; Logophile; Minutemen
Billbears--just a little reminder, now that you're back from your vacation...LS, logophile, Minutemen and I would like an answer to the following question:

Where does Hanson make a mistake here about WWII? Where does he unfairly criticize war critics' treatment of current ops?

I'd also like a specific explanation of what you mean when you term me a "keyboard warrior."

Thanks in advance.

122 posted on 06/09/2006 8:33:36 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: stainlessbanner

He's been dead-on about Iraq, and his analysis is brilliant most of the time precisely because he understands pre-modern war.


123 posted on 06/10/2006 8:25:15 AM PDT by LS
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To: melancton

I don't think Italy EITHER "attacked us" or declared war on us, but it's irrelevant. Bush stated in the WoT message after 9/11 that those who harbor terrorists are themselves terrorists, and the evidence is beyond overwhelming that Zarqawi, al-Qaeda, and Islamic Jihad were all up and running in Iraq prior to 9/11. And Hanson's columns work PRECISELY because they are so closely tied to the truth.


124 posted on 06/10/2006 8:27:14 AM PDT by LS
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To: billbears; LS; Logophile; Minutemen
Hey billbears...

It's been 39 days since I asked you to be specific about where Hanson was lying, mistaken, etc. in this article. It's been 11 days since I asked again after you came off your vacation outside the country.

Nothing but blather the first time, and nothing but silence the second.

You say his views are "questionable at best" but you can't find anything to cite in a 1,663 word article?

Sounds like a kill to me. I hope you other gentlemen will confirm that kill for me.

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If I were you, I'd hit the silk before those flames get to the main fuel tank. I'm going to go find my crew chief and have him paint another red star under the canopy rail. Happy landings, sucker.

125 posted on 06/20/2006 11:27:32 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: Mr. Silverback; billbears
Mr. Silverback: Mig splashed in Yalu, no chute- Kill confirmed. Head back to base!
126 posted on 06/21/2006 7:25:07 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Minutemen; Mr. Silverback
Please note I asked the first question in post #47. I was responding to a poster that questioned my opinion of Vic. Vic's problem is that Vic compares everything in modern history to ancient Greece. Unfortunately for Vic, there isn't a black and white now and there wasn't a black and white then. Contrary to nationalist flag wavers and 'modern historians' there are multiple facets to the problem. But I suspect such arguments go a bit over your heads. I have neither the time nor the inclination of going through historical fact of Pacific theater politics in the 1930s or Wilsonian mistakes of the 1910s

You ask for me to point out Vic's inconsistencies in this article. Fortunately, for you, this is a hypothetical article. Note at no time did I point out issues with this particular article (well other than the fact that Vic makes the same mistake all 'conservatives' do in trying to equate a third world army that never had three war ready battalions with a formidable military power that was intent on ruling Europe). I was stating an opinion on Vic's general attitude toward history. Also note Mr. Silverback never answered my question that I posed first

So tell you what. Smack hands, clap each other on the backs, post jpegs, whatever it is you do to make yourselves feel all happy and superior. Send emails 'we told him, blah, blah, blah'. I really do not care. There was no 'kill' confirmed as Mr. Silverback never answered the question I posed first. Of course he won't be able to, and that was my point in the first place.

As for the inconsistencies with Vic's general view of history there are conservative, as well as educational, sites out there that present the problems with Vic's tabloid view of history. I could supply you with a few although you wouldn't go.

Now please...carry on with your celebrating of 'winning' your little chat board argument, eh? I have better things to do with my life.

127 posted on 06/21/2006 8:14:18 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Minutemen

I'll meet you at the Officers Club; first round's on me. :-)


128 posted on 06/22/2006 6:07:27 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: billbears; Minutemen; Logophile; LS
Please note I asked the first question in post #47.

1. Post 47 does not contain any questions.

2. Post 47 was not directed to me.

3. If your answer was "I don't have a problem with this article specifically" you could have told any one of us that on day one.

Chide us for supposed childishness if you wish, but we got here solely because of your arrogance. BTW, they tell me the kimchee tastes better if you close your eyes and think of Dixie.

129 posted on 06/22/2006 6:45:48 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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