Is the U.S. Giving Mexico Intelligence about Americans?

NRO ^ | 05/10/2006 | Andrew C. McCarthy

[kingattax]

it has been shamefully clear from the beginning of their existence that the bush admin doesn't support the Minutemen

[Rutles4Ever]

Incredible if true. Any proof that the government was giving intelligence to Mexico for the purpose of locating the Minutemen... (ummm, would it be President Hastert then?

We'll see how it turns out. The implications are startling, but this could just amount to a misunderstanding on the part of the Inland Bulletin. Let's hope it is.

[skeeter]

This article provides a good justification of why its not a good idea anyone 'eat crow just' yet, and the establishment GOP fans were tripping all over themselves to insist.

The story ain't over yet.

[soccer_maniac]

your tax $$$ at work

[skeeter]

This article provides a good justification of why its not a good idea anyone 'eat crow' just yet, as the establishment GOP fans were tripping all over themselves to insist.

The story ain't over yet.

[G.Mason]

"If, as DHS maintains, it is merely honoring U.S. treaty obligations, that is laudable and to be encouraged."

Bullcrap!

If there is such a treaty, it was snuck in on the American public by an inept and possibly traitorous Congress and signed by a complicit president.

There is nothing laudable about it.

[fizziwig]

Excellent article, thanks!

Gee, the CPB changed its tune once the DHS hammer came down...how odd...:)

[NapkinUser]

This is what Neal Boortz said (I was going to give it it's own thread, but didn't. Someone else can if they want)

There were reports yesterday that our government is telling the Mexican government where the Minutemen are gathering to monitor illegal crossings of our border. Our government denies it. So .. whom to believe?

There were reports yesterday that our government is telling the Mexican government where the Minutemen are gathering to monitor illegal crossings of our border. Our government denies it. So .. whom to believe?

OK .. a little cogitation here.

The charge made by reporter Sara Carter is that the U.S. Border Patrol is telling the Mexican government where the Minutemen are staging their vigils. The Border Patrol says it isn't so.

Now you tell me ... what branch of our government oversees the U.S. Border Patrol? Now remember, there are only four branches of the government in Washington. Can you name them? Well ... if you're fresh from your experience at government education, probably not. But they are the Executive Branch, the Legislative Branch, the Judicial Branch and the Lobbyist Branch. Now, of these four branches, which is the only branch that has shown no inclination to do anything about the thousands of invaders who are crashing our border with Mexico? Well, actually there are two. It's not the Legislative Branch. Both houses of Congress are currently discussing proposals to shut down the borders. It's not the Judicial Branch. They merely interpret and enforce the laws set forth by the other branches. What does that leave? The Lobbyist Branch and the Executive Branch. The Lobbyist Branch is busy working for those businesses in this country who benefit from the Mexican invasion. The problem is, the Lobbyist Branch has no operational control over the Border Patrol. That leaves the Executive Branch. Clearly George Bush, who runs the Executive Branch, has shown absolutely no inclination whatsoever to take even the smallest step to stop this massive invasion of the American homeland, and it's George Bush who exercises the executive control over the policies and activities of the Border Patrol. So ... what do you think? Here we have a president with no interest in stopping the invasion, and we have a Border Patrol under his control that is reported to be handing information to the Mexican government regarding the locations of the Minutemen operations? Draw your own conclusions.

The next question is why? Why would our government tell the Mexican government where the Minutemen are? Well, we know that the Mexican government is complicit in the invasion. Mexicans are openly encouraged by the Mexican government to cross the border into the US so that they can get higher-paying jobs and send money back to Mexico. [comic book Mexico produces to help Mexicans cross the border: Spanish | English] Right now that money totals about $20 billion a year. Now if the Mexican government knew just where the Minutemen were, they could either hold back the invaders in those areas, or send them to areas where the Minutemen aren't. Simply put -- if we have people in our own government who are giving the enemy the locations of our border defense forces, there could only be one reason --- to enable the invasion.

[Junior_G]

Last night, when the Bush-bots began gloating over this story's "demise"; I had a feeling that they might be the ones eating crow in the end.

[Soul Seeker]

This situation calls for close attention. The American people should be told exactly what DHS’s component agencies have been telling Mexico. If, as DHS maintains, it is merely honoring U.S. treaty obligations, that is laudable and to be encouraged. If, however, our government is gratuitously providing a suspect regime with information about the First Amendment-protected activities of American citizens, the immigration issue is headed for a whole new dimension of controversy.

And I have been holding my tongue for precisely this reason. I want all the information. Because, if the second, they have overstepped their bounds inexuscably. This is a serious allegation, and I hope for their sakes it really is inaccurate. If it is not...

[SerpentDove]

bump

[skeeter]

Some were pretty loud & public with the scorn & abuse.

I will look forward to seeing at least a few apologies if this story pans out. Or not.

[NapkinUser]

Ignore that crowd.

[dljordan]

"Last night, when the Bush-bots began gloating over this story's "demise"; I had a feeling that they might be the ones eating crow in the end."

There was much wailing ang gnashing of teeth last night and this morning.

[savedbygrace]

Yeah. I take it you're not holding your breath. ;-)

The DHS/CBP story is beginning to unravel.

[jonascord]

It is one hell of a thing when, if the order to feed information to the Mexican government came from the White House... Does that qualify as a "high crime or misedemeanor"? I can't type the word...

I just hope there is some low level White House functionary that was more "loyal" than smart.

[Oliver Optic]

Exactly ... I can't figure out why immediately believing the report is "knee jerk" ... but immediately believing the denial is not.

[Shimmer128]

I got this from Kim Weissman, formerly the author of CongressAction.info
He is a wise man and I value his input.

"With this type of high-level government to government contact, the idea that this is some scheme dreamt up by some rogue Border Patrol agents, or even a local Border Patrol office, simply isn't credible. There's no telling how high up it goes, but it could be pretty high, if not right to the top.

Now that the Mexican army has been tipped off to the whereabouts of Minuteman patrols, the assumption is that they'll use the information to steer drug smugglers and illegals away from those patrols. But given the incidents of armed confrontation between Mexican army units and local law enforcement over the years, there's a more sinister possibility -- what happens if a Mexican army unit goes on the offensive and wipes out one of these Minuteman patrols?

This is nothing less than an invasion by a foreign army into our sovereign territory. It's called "war". Tom Tancredo (R-CO) is absolutely right: It is a military problem. We should commit the military to the border – tomorrow. I mean, with armor and weapons."

I agree with him 100% You don't get high gov't contact from beat-feet Border Patrol agents. Wake up!