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Another Possible Bump to the Debt Ceiling (to nearly $10 TRILLION)
Washington Post ^ | May 9, 2006 | Jonathan Weisman and Shailagh Murray

Posted on 05/09/2006 11:04:47 AM PDT by soccer_maniac

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To: soccer_maniac

Those freaking bearings on the money printing presses must be glowing red about now................


21 posted on 05/09/2006 11:45:52 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: ElTianti

yeah, i agree about the overblown perception of the national debt. what concerns me is the method (dollar devaluation) that seems to be the long term remedy.


22 posted on 05/09/2006 11:46:43 AM PDT by kinoxi
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To: mc6809e
If Republicans could just get control of the House, Senate, and Presidency...

Remember when there was a government shutdown, stalemate, because House Republicans wouldn't write in the debt increase to $4.5 trillion? Ahhh, those were the days ...

23 posted on 05/09/2006 11:56:54 AM PDT by MozarkDawg
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To: KingKenrod; ElTianti
What is Botswana's secret? No economy at all?

Botswana (like Dubai) is one of the few countries that have managed to literally raise themselves up through hard work and great vision. Here is a report from www.CIA.gov on Botswana's economy:

Botswana has maintained one of the world's highest economic growth rates since independence in 1966. Through fiscal discipline and sound management, Botswana has transformed itself from one of the poorest countries in the world to a middle-income country with a per capita GDP of $10,000 in 2005. Two major investment services rank Botswana as the best credit risk in Africa. Diamond mining has fueled much of the expansion and currently accounts for more than one-third of GDP and for 70-80% of export earnings.

24 posted on 05/09/2006 11:59:32 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz

diamond mining is one third of GDP, lucky dirt they're sitting on


25 posted on 05/09/2006 12:11:43 PM PDT by kinoxi
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To: MississippiDeltaDawg
Remember when there was a government shutdown, stalemate, because House Republicans wouldn't write in the debt increase to $4.5 trillion? Ahhh, those were the days ... Ah yes indeed. But remember, as long as we measure it as a percentage of GDP, there's not a thing to worry about, keep feeding the pig. /sarc
26 posted on 05/09/2006 12:14:58 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I'll end up paying a lot more in taxes :(


27 posted on 05/09/2006 1:06:50 PM PDT by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: ElTianti

That's the stupidest chart I've ever seen.

Would you please do us all a favor and include all the unfunded Social Security and Medicare liability?

Please, humor us and let's see how we compare to other countries.


28 posted on 05/09/2006 1:09:40 PM PDT by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: The Shootist; All

The estimated population of the United States is 298,677,050 so each citizen's share of this debt is $28,002.18.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$1.95 billion per day since September 30, 2005!


29 posted on 05/09/2006 1:15:31 PM PDT by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: soccer_maniac
Would you please do us all a favor and include all the unfunded Social Security and Medicare liability?

There is a difference between a debt and an unfunded liability.

30 posted on 05/09/2006 1:26:07 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: JeeperFreeper

The gov't could pay off the debt with little effort. Just print the money

Uhhh, hate to tell you but that is what deficit spending is. If you create a debt that is never paid off, guess what, you have created more "money" to float around in banking accounts making more loans.

The fiat money system that we have is based on debt to create money in bank accounts.

A loan is money in a bank account that was just created by loan that was deposited into it. The same money borrowed over and over and over again moving as credits into multiple bank accounts as each is loaned out in it's turn.

Guess what happens when everyone wants their money out of the bank at the same time.

Government debt (sold to banks as government bonds and Treasury notes) is nothing more than the fundamental loan that creates the first bank account to underwrite even more debt and add "money" to accounts in the private sector.

Look up "fractional reserve banking", on the internet sometime. That is the monetary system we have under the Federal Reserve System.

31 posted on 05/09/2006 1:39:41 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
There is a difference between a debt and an unfunded liability.

You must have studied at the Enron school of business

32 posted on 05/09/2006 1:49:15 PM PDT by soccer_maniac (Do some good while browsing FR --> Join our Folding@Home Team# 36120: keyword: folding@home)
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To: soccer_maniac

Are you saying a debt and an unfunded liability are the same?


33 posted on 05/09/2006 2:02:32 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: soccer_maniac
Hey, as long as China is willing to foot the bill, why cut the spending? What ill could possibly come of that?

[/sarcam]

34 posted on 05/09/2006 2:57:12 PM PDT by montag813
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To: soccer_maniac

Tonight we're gonna party like it's 1999...spend it boys! It don't mean nothin'! Print some more money!


35 posted on 05/09/2006 6:31:54 PM PDT by Sender (“The beginning of wisdom is to call things by their right names.” – Old Chinese proverb)
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To: soccer_maniac

I smell bankruptcy in the air...


36 posted on 05/09/2006 7:47:40 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: montag813

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37 posted on 05/09/2006 7:49:13 PM PDT by ElTianti
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To: soccer_maniac; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; ...

BTTT!

There they go again...


38 posted on 05/10/2006 6:27:30 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: kinoxi
i agree about the need for a viable third party, but unless i see one that can win i'm still voting for the lesser of two evils.

One of the reasons third parties cannot win is because people think they cannot win, and they go on and vote for the DimRats or RepubliSlimeys.

39 posted on 05/10/2006 6:30:40 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: ElTianti
So it's a GOOD thing that the average individual needs to pay up ANOTHER $7k as part of the national debt?

Damn, here I thought being able to keep more of what I make in my pocket was the whole idea of this "freedom", "limited government", and "capitalism" thingie... I guess I only work to service the growing spending habits of Congress.

In that case, time to stop working...

40 posted on 05/10/2006 6:52:29 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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