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Democrats To Campaign With Arnold, Laud His Role In Big Bonds Passage
New West Notes ^ | 05-06-2006 | Bill Bradley

Posted on 05/06/2006 8:10:07 PM PDT by Amerigomag

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Again the warning to rabid, Republican partisans: If the Austrian should switch his party registration. California will never be rid of this liberal interloper.
1 posted on 05/06/2006 8:10:09 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

Pretty damn gross.


2 posted on 05/06/2006 8:11:14 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Amerigomag

Pretty damn gross.


3 posted on 05/06/2006 8:12:13 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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"Joining the former action superstar, according to multiple sources in both parties, on his jet will be Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez and Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata, along with the Republican legislative leaders, Senator Dick Ackerman and Assemblyman George Plesci"

It was a JOINT effort and agreement between the Governor and the Legislature and they are all taking credit for it.

WHAT is so strange about that?

4 posted on 05/06/2006 8:13:30 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Amerigomag

Of course, if we had listened to some of those rabid Republican partisans, maybe they wouldn't have nominated a closet Democrat to the Republican ticket in the first place, eh? The "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em mentality" in some dusty corners of the big tent is slowing poisoning the GOP, both in California and elsewhere.


5 posted on 05/06/2006 8:16:02 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Amerigomag

"If the Austrian should switch his party registration. California will never be rid of this liberal interloper."

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"And if Kennedy will become a Republican..."


Arnold becoming a Democrat is about as likely as Kennedy becoming a Republican.

It would have been much easier for Arnold to switch to be a Dem, long before this, given the undubitable Kennedy pressure for many years. But ARNOLD STAYED A REPUBLICAN, because he believes in Republican values.

It would have been much easier for him to run in CA as a Dem, BUT HE DID NOT, HE RAN AND IS A REPUBLICAN AND A US CITIZEN.

Your referring to him as "the Austrian" reflects on your hatred of Arnold, NOT on Arnold.


6 posted on 05/06/2006 8:17:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: dr_who_2

For the MILLIONTH time:

Look what happened when Republicans nominated conservatives: they were beaten handily by Gray Davis, and we ended up with Gray Davis as governor, precisely because ONLY Republicans voted for them, who are only 34% of the voters.

Ignoring reality doesn't win elections.

The only way a Republican can get elected in CA, is by appealing to the center and even center left.


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CALIFORNIA VOTER AND PARTY PROFILES

http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/JTF_VoterProfilesJTF.pdf


"The Democratic Party currently has an advantage of 1.4 million voters over the Republican Party (7.1 million to 5.7 million) or 9 percentage points (43% to 34%), according to the Secretary of State.

Among those most likely to vote in this year’s elections, Democrats outnumber Republicans by a 7-point margin (44% to 37%), while 15 percent of likely voters are registered as independents.

... the fact that independents are more likely to lean toward Democrats than Republicans (42% to 28%) tends to work to the disadvantage of the GOP in statewide elections."




7 posted on 05/06/2006 8:20:37 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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“Legislators are always deferential with Arnold because of who he is,”

"COME WITH ME, IF YOU WANT TO LIVE"

8 posted on 05/06/2006 8:22:12 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: FairOpinion

Look at what Schwartzenegger has done about taxation and spending. Independents are on the side of Republicans on that point. But it helps to have a spine.


9 posted on 05/06/2006 8:27:40 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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Arnold REFUSED to raist taxes, despite the Dem pressure.

And you seem to forget that the overwhelmingly Dem Legislature is the one who really controls spending.

Arnold put Prop. 76 on the ballot, precisely to control spending, and the CA voters defeated it.

So don't blame Arnold -- put the blame where it belongs: the CA Legislature controlled by Dems and the voters, who voted against Prop. 76.


10 posted on 05/06/2006 8:31:56 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: Amerigomag; All

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California's newest State Assembly Assistant Republican Leader:


VAN TRAN Blasts DEAN: Calls for Soladarity in Iraq

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1536289/posts


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11 posted on 05/06/2006 8:37:46 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: FairOpinion

Don't blame aRnold..

how convenient. even if he aided and abetted the dems from the gitgo with his nicey nice , hey, let's borrow 15 billion and work together.

they all borrow up a storm and that's all you have to offer.


FO, you are so predictable.


12 posted on 05/06/2006 8:39:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: dr_who_2

"Of course, if we had listened to some of those rabid Republican partisans, maybe they wouldn't have nominated a closet Democrat to the Republican ticket in the first place, eh? The "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em mentality" in some dusty corners of the big tent is slowing poisoning the GOP, both in California and elsewhere."


People can argue all night long about Arnold, but one thing that is inarguable is that without Arnold we could not have taken the governors seat from Gray Davis in a recall.


13 posted on 05/06/2006 8:48:36 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: FairOpinion
Arnold put Prop. 76 on the ballot, precisely to control spending, and the CA voters defeated it.

Quite right, and given that CA Republicans have been using the same proposition ## playbook for years instead of confronting the legislature to make it clear to voters where the fault lies, this is what results.
14 posted on 05/06/2006 8:50:25 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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You seem to confuse the old Ca GOP with the new,, ever sine this party started running to the middle, its been getting its arse whupped. what does that tell ya?

the new big tent party is run by folks like the New Majority who owe their allegiance to no one except their own club. you got a hundred grand? you could join if you like. oh, but you need to know someone who is already in the club.

ask the FO account, maybe he she it can put a good word in for you.


15 posted on 05/06/2006 9:09:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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People can argue all night long about Arnold, but one thing that is inarguable is that without Arnold we could not have taken the governors seat from Gray Davis in a recall.

Nonsense. Here is the last USA Today/CNN/GALLUP poll before the recall.

"6. If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"

September 25-27
Registered Voters

McClintock 49%
Bustamante 42%

Probable Voters

McClintock 56%
Bustamante 37%

Despite having the second lowest Republican registration of any senate Republican seat up for election this year, McClintock's campaign ran more than 19 points ahead of party registration - the largest margin of any senate Republican:

Candidate Party Votes Percent
* Tom McClintock Republican 226,225 61.0%
Paul Joseph Graber Democratic 144,800 39.0%

So California won't vote conservative? Consider the spate of recent ballot propositions:

Prop 227 English only education in public schools Passed
Prop 209 No more affirmative action in State hiring or education Passed
Prop 22 Heterosexual marriage only Passed
Prop 187 No benefits for illegal aliens Passed

Simon lost to Davis by only 325,000 votes after the most incompetent campaign in history and while being stabbed in the back by his own Party.

Don't give us ‘California is a liberal state’ until you know what you are talking about. The problem is a gerrymandered legislature, not the voters.

“My relationship to power and authority is that I’m all for it,” he once explained. “People need somebody to watch over them.... Ninety-five percent of the people in the world need to be told what to do and how to behave.”

Arnold Schwarzenegger, U.S. News & World Report, Nov 26, 1990

16 posted on 05/06/2006 9:10:01 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: NormsRevenge
You seem to confuse the old Ca GOP with the new,, ever sine this party started running to the middle, its been getting its arse whupped. what does that tell ya?

That you and I are probably in agreement on that point.
17 posted on 05/06/2006 9:13:20 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Amerigomag

Maybe the Kennedy initiation is like the Mob's..


18 posted on 05/06/2006 9:16:19 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: FairOpinion
he believes in Republican values

Only if Republicans are social liberals.

19 posted on 05/06/2006 9:18:31 PM PDT by Gelato
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Arnold VETOED the homosexual marriage bill.

Both his Dem opponents said they will sign it, if they get elected.

Now, tell me who would you prefer as governor?


20 posted on 05/06/2006 9:21:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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