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Fred Barnes: You Can't Always Get What You Want (George W. Bush, politician)
The Weekly Standard ^ | May 14, 2006 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 05/06/2006 3:26:58 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: Howlin

Here is what they were saying about Reagan in 1983

http://reformed-theology.org/jbs/books/insiders/part_2.htm


Just replace Bush with Reagan and it sounds just like any FR bash Bush thread today.


81 posted on 05/06/2006 10:30:45 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: okie01
Sounds like a bunch of making excuses.
82 posted on 05/06/2006 10:31:47 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Texasforever; woofie
Caught up in misguided euphoria, conservatives began talking about the return of fiscal and diplomatic sanity to the federal government. But the shock they felt when their man had chosen George Bush as his running mate returned when President-elect Reagan announced his selections for the new cabinet.

*Sigh*

Second verse, same as the first?

For Secretary of State, he chose Alexander Haig,

a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

FGS, I do believe the John Birch Society has a quorum call at FR!!

83 posted on 05/06/2006 10:35:09 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Texasforever
I'm not concerned about what Reagan did as Governor of California. I'm concerned what Reagan did as POTUS.

>>>>>Reagan broke his promise never to raise taxes with his “revenue enhancement” programs along with the largest FICA increase in history. Bush hasn’t raised taxes in any way .

Revenue enhancers was a code phrase for tax increases. Just not income tax increases. You're right, Bush has never raised taxes. We just have $450 billion deficits and a $9-trillion debt ceiling instead.

The increase in FICA was on recommendation from the Greenspan Commission on Social Security reform. Conservatives didn't like it, but that decision made SS solvent for 50 years. In his last SOTUS, Bush promised to organize a bi-partisan group, similiar to the Greenspan Commisssion, in order to reform SS on his watch.

>>>>Reagan cut and run in Lebanon after the first taking of casualties.

BULLoney. Following the Marine Barracks bombing, Reagan ordered fighter attacks from the aircraft carriers Independence and Kennedy, launched attacks against terrorist sights in Lebanon. Reagan also ordered the USS New Jersey to shell terrorists outposts within Lebanon. Reagan did stand up to the terrorists. What Reagan didn't do, was exacerbate the civil war that was going on in Beirut and all of Lebanon at that time. There were also geopolitical circumstances to consider that involved the Soviets and their support of Syria.

>>>>Reagan appointed 3 liberals and one conservative to the Supreme Court. Bush hass appointed 2 Conservatives and numerous lower court Conservatives.

More BULLoney. Reagan didn't nominate any liberals to the SCOTUS. Rehnquist and Scalia were solid conservatives. O'Conner and Kennedy were considered moderate conservatives. No POTUS can be sure how his nominees to the SCOTUS will turn out 10-20 years down the road. That goes for Roberts and Alito too.

>>>>Reagan talked a good game on abortion but Bush pushed for and got the late term abortion ban passed.

More revisionism. Reagan was pro-life. Bush is pro-life. PBA wasn't an issue in Reagan's day. It is an issue today.

In his day, Reagan did support legislation that would allow for a challenge of Roe vs. Wade. Reagan adopted the "Mexico City Policy" halting federal aid to private groups promoting abortions abroad.

The Reagan administration cut off funding to the United Nations Fund for Population Activities because the global agency violated U.S. law by participating in China's mandatory abortion program.

The Reagan administration adopted regulations prohibiting federally funded "family planning clinics" from promoting abortion as birth control.

The Reagan White House blocked use of federal money for research using the tissue of aborted babies.

The Reagan administration helped win approval of the "Danforth Amendment," which said federally funded educational institutions could not be guilty of "sex discrimination" for refusing to pay for abortions.

Reagan himself introduced the issue of fetal pain into the public debate over abortion. His administration was key in enactment of laws protecting the right to life of handicapped newborns.

Reagan designated a National Sanctity of Human Life Day, to recognize the value of life at all stages. Reagan also was the first POTUS to address the annual Right to Life March on WashDC and did so on an annual basis.

>>>>Reagan left office and immediately endorsed the Brady Bill in his first public appearance as an ex-president.

Yeah. As a private citizen, Reagan did support the Brady Bill. After all, James Brady was Reagan's Press Secretary and political friend.

>>>>The myth of Reagan is exactly that. A myth.

Wrong. Reagan was a great President. No myth. Just fact.

84 posted on 05/06/2006 10:35:21 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: sinkspur; Mo1; onyx
sink, you have got to read the link in Texas' post.

It is our view, as we implied earlier, that a tightly knit and very powerful group has run America far more than has any recent President. Its effect on our nation has been horrible. We call this group The Insiders and we dare to label their activity a conspiracy — a conspiracy that must be exposed and routed if the disastrous national policies of the past several decades are to be reversed.

Sound familiar? *Snort*

85 posted on 05/06/2006 10:38:33 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
To the dopey JBS, Reagan was the anti-Christ.

Then Bush 41 was Armeggedon-in-Chief.

What no rapture?

Well, Clinton surely was the Satanic Dog.

Not yet?

By God, Bush 43, with all his talk about JEEESUS has got to be the Apocalyptic Appeaser.

The hysteria level is beginning to remind me of the contrails and Inspector Harry Callahan.

86 posted on 05/06/2006 10:44:54 PM PDT by sinkspur ( I didn't know until just now that it was Barzini all along.)
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To: sinkspur

My gosh, they've been saying that same things for years, haven't they?

And they're saying them right now about Bush 43!

Look at this one about GWHB:

http://reformed-theology.org/jbs/books/insiders/part_3.htm


87 posted on 05/06/2006 10:46:36 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Reagan Man
Wrong. Reagan was a great President. No myth. Just fact.

He was a great president but you revisionists have created a mythical conservative colossus that never existed. I will continue to debunk that myth as long as you and others use it to beat up a president that is IN FACT more conservative in his actions than Reagan was in his. If you don't like it then heat....kitchen.....out.

88 posted on 05/06/2006 10:48:06 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

Thanx for that link!

89 posted on 05/06/2006 10:54:48 PM PDT by rdb3 (It helps now that I'm no longer young enough to know everything.)
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To: rdb3

Kind of revealing isn't it?


90 posted on 05/06/2006 10:55:42 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: sinkspur
>>>>You can squirm any way you want.

No squirm here. LOL

Bush has shown he's tough in prosecuting the WOT. He's fairly strong on national defense, just not on securing the borders. Bush is strong on pro-life/right to life issues and on tax cuts too. I just don't believe Bush measures up to Reagan, especially on domestic spending issues, reversing the welfare state, advancing limit government and reducing federal regulations. Even on military spending, Bush is way behind Reagan's defense budgets.

I see the last 26 years as a progression of conservatism. We went from from Reagan, to Gingrich. In 2000 I thought Bush would pick up the Reagan mantle and advance the conservative agenda more then he has. Never thought Bush was Reagan. That would be asking for a political miracle.

After Bush signed off on the trillion dollar Prescription Drug Program, an 86% increase in Education spending, and the three biggest discretionary boondoggles in US goverenmnt history --- the transportation bill, the farm bill and the energy bill --- as with most conservatives, Bush lost my support for his domestic policy agenda.

91 posted on 05/06/2006 10:56:18 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Texasforever

Kind of revealing isn't it?

Xtremely.

92 posted on 05/06/2006 11:00:34 PM PDT by rdb3 (It helps now that I'm no longer young enough to know everything.)
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To: Howlin
FGS, I do believe the John Birch Society has a quorum call at FR!!

Yes but they are under the banner of the Constitution Party. The two are now cross linking their websites. It is amazing how many CP posters on FR use the same phrases in regards to illegal immigration that can be found on the JBS site.

93 posted on 05/06/2006 11:04:32 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever
>>>>If you don't like it then heat....kitchen.....out.

Sorry, I'll be around to squash your mindless attacks on the Reagan legacy and the Reagan record. Only a liberal Democrat would lie about Reagan the way you have. LOL Carry on.

94 posted on 05/06/2006 11:06:55 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man
Sorry, I'll be around to squash your mindless

You can't squash a bug.

95 posted on 05/06/2006 11:08:10 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: RWR8189

bttt


96 posted on 05/06/2006 11:08:48 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Texasforever
>>>>You can't squash a bug.

I just squashed you. Nuff said.

97 posted on 05/06/2006 11:16:43 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man
I just squashed you. Nuff said.

You remind me of the Monty Python Black Knight.

98 posted on 05/06/2006 11:19:58 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

And you remind me of a liberal Texas Democrat.


99 posted on 05/06/2006 11:23:04 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: Texasforever

Yes but they are under the banner of the Constitution Party.

There's a drive deep down the right field line! Way back!

GONE!

100 posted on 05/07/2006 12:02:52 AM PDT by rdb3 (It helps now that I'm no longer young enough to know everything.)
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