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Republicans Shouldn't Run Away from Bush
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | 5/3/06 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/04/2006 8:59:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

RUSH: There are Republicans planning to abandon George W. Bush in droves, particularly during this election year. Bush has had it, a 36%, 33% approval rating. The guy's an albatross around their neck. "We've got to get out of there! We don't want Bush doing anything but raising money for this," blah, blah, blah, blah. There's precedent for this. By the way, a couple of pollsters saying it's a bad move for the Republicans. You know, Republicans, I'll just give you some advice right now. All of you Republicans in Congress -- including you, Chuck Hagel and Olympia Snowe and all the rest of them, McCain -- you want to win reelection in this year, if you're up?

You want the Republicans to hold the House? Unify behind George W. Bush. Just do it. Just do it. Don't try to please moderate or Democrat voters by showing your independence. Just go out there and unify and support the president on a number of issues that you can. Fred Barnes, who at the time was a senior editor of the New Republic, posted a piece in the LA Times December 9th, 1986, Ronald Reagan's sixth year. Conservatives in '86 were abandoning Reagan, the most important conservative in the history of the movement in America.

"A dozen or so conservative leaders met privately at a Washington hotel last week to discuss the future of their political movement. Edward Feulner of the Heritage Foundation was there. So were New Right strategist Paul Weyrich, several fund-raisers, two officials of the Reagan Administration and a few Capitol Hill aides. Not surprisingly, the conversation turned to President Reagan and the Iran arms scandal. Forget Reagan, they agreed. The President's a goner, his influence shattered forever. We've got to decide how to press our agenda without him. Only William Kristol, a top official of the Department of Education, dissented, insisting that Reagan should be defended.

"Thus, the Iran scandal has achieved what Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, the 1981-82 recession and the Marines debacle in Lebanon couldn't. It has caused the disintegration of the Reagan coalition, that blend of conservatives from fundamentalist Christians to libertarians that held together as the most unified single bloc in American politics for a decade. And even if the coalition is revived on an issue or two -- aid to the Nicaraguan contras, say, or funding the Strategic Defense Initiative -- as Reagan serves out his final two years in the White House, it won't be the dominant political force anymore.

"The matter can be put quite succinctly: Without Reagan the conservatives lack a popular leader, and without the conservatives Reagan lacks a broad ideological base. Both wind up losers, and the political balance of power tilts away from them. Sure, the conservatives are still sentimentally attached to Reagan, but he's no longer the same rallying point. Worse, there's no replacement in sight. Conservatives are fragmented on who should be the Republican presidential nominee in 1988. The gravity of the split is only now dawning on Reagan and his allies. Last Tuesday, Secretary of Education William J. Bennett denounced conservatives for ingratitude and political stupidity in abandoning Reagan.

"'There is no conservative agenda without Ronald Reagan,' Bennett said. 'He is the man who made whatever good has happened to this Administration happen, and people should be mindful of that.' Patrick J. Buchanan, the White House communications director, is even more blunt. 'There's an old saying that the major failing of American conservatives is they don't retrieve their wounded,' he said. 'Now's the time you take an inventory of your friends.' Not too many friends are turning up, however. Human Events, the weekly conservative publication that Reagan reads faithfully, has only half-heartedly defended him on the Iran arms deal.

"Linda Chavez, a White House aide until last winter, published a column in the Washington Post denouncing Lt. Col. Oliver North, the ousted National Security Council official blamed for diverting profits from the Iranian arms sales to the contras; she said that he was not a 'true conservative.' Bennett, who got Chavez her first job in the Administration, was so mad about this that he quickly spread the word that he was sorry he'd ever sponsored her. Why are conservatives so wary of supporting Reagan in his moment of greatest need?

"'Nobody believes in the issue, giving arms to Iran,' says Allan Ryskind, the editor of Human Events. 'Nobody's persuaded by the arguments. And while conservatives love the contras, they think that aiding them has now been jeopardized.' (Military aid was only narrowly approved by Congress this year, and the scandal over diverted funds makes renewal of aid less than likely.) Another source of wariness by most conservatives was the firing of North. 'Was North scapegoated or did he deserve to be fired?' asks Jeffrey Bell, an adviser to Rep. Jack Kemp (R-N.Y.). 'Until conservatives know that, they'll be on hold. They love North.' And though many conservatives may be inclined to stand with Reagan, they're unsure where to do that. With new revelations in the Iran scandal occurring daily, 'they don't know what ground to stand on,' says Bell.

"Complains Howard Phillips of the Conservative Caucus: 'The nature of the issue keeps changing.' Finally, there are conservatives like Phillips who always regarded Reagan as too moderate for their taste. 'We wish the best for him, but we're going to focus more on the 1988 presidential race than on helping his cause,' Phillips says. 'Reagan has turned over the substance of policy to people in fundamental disagreement with the policies he's rhetorically espoused.' Phillips is resistant to lobbying. His friend Buchanan pleaded with him over dinner last Wednesday to come to the President's defense. Afterwards, Phillips went on ABC-TV's 'Nightline' and trashed Reagan."

Is it not interesting? It seems like history is repeating. Now, I know Bush is no Reagan (don't misunderstand) in the sense of leading a movement, and I've been the first to say this. But what's interesting is they just want to abandon him, and I'll tell you, there is something in here that's really true: Conservatives do not retrieve their "wounded" from the battlefield; they abandon them. There is so much -- especially more so today than ever before, there's so much -- competition out there. Conservatism has gotten so big; it has so many people who want to claim to be the leader, claim to be the definers, that if anybody takes a hit, they're happy to let them fade away because of the competition.

You know, conservatives do have competitors within the ranks. When the competitors bite the bullet, bite the dust, they're only too willing to let them, some of them them are, just fade away. There is not a whole lot of public defense, including of the president. Now, it's true the president is not defending himself, either. But I'll tell you something, I remember this period. I was working in Sacramento at the time, and I was wondering during this whole Iran Contra stuff, where's Reagan? He was being trashed every day in the media. "Where's Reagan? Why didn't he get up there and answer this stuff?"

Some people were saying, "Because he can't! Because he can't. Because it's true," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They say the same thing about Bush. "Why doesn't he go out there and defend himself?" Well Bush's answer is he doesn't care. He's got his job to do and he doesn't think it's PR spin. It's the same thing with Cheney. Cheney's got a piece coming out in Vanity Fair, I guess, or an interview with him, and they ask him (summarized): "What about your horrible public image?" He said, "I'm not in the public image business. I guess I could improve it if I went out there and tried to improve it, but that's not what my job is. My job is not public spin. My job is not my public image," and so it's amazing, these parallels.

Yet when Ronald Reagan died, all these people who abandoned him (those still around) were muscling trying to get in the front row, trying to make sure they were all over the place to be seen as loyal, never-wavering supporters. The '86 midterm elections, you know, these defections, and people who said, "We can't run with Reagan! Why, Reagan is destroying us." There's always been this tendency on the conservative side to, when there's trouble, split the scene and run away -- and, you know, Reagan did some things to irritate conservatives. While he cut taxes he also raised them at times. You know, abandoning Lebanon after the Marine barracks was hit, that wasn't popular with people. But look how time changes things. When you go back and you look at the totality of a period of time, I don't remember during the funeral week of Ronald Reagan, other than his son and maybe a couple Democrats, but even they were pretty quiet. I don't remember any of these conservatives stepping forward to remind everybody how effectiveless and worthless and pointless the last two or three years of Reagan's term were, do you?

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To: Rebelbase

You forget the last part of the analogy, which is what happens to the girl after she leaves the dance with the stranger.


363 posted on 05/04/2006 9:08:46 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: ideas_over_party
"You ought to be careful who you call a liar, Chief."

I always am. So far I've caught you in two lies on this thread.

364 posted on 05/04/2006 9:10:35 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: MNJohnnie
Well I have decided to stick with the ones who brought me to the dance come hell or high water, and that is President Bush.

I don't see any one on the other side that can touch Bush with with a 10 foot poll.

I have seen lots of posts saying their not going to vote or support the president because of his immigration policy.

Well here is a prior post of mine concerning immigration and blacks turning away from their ignorant Democrat leaders and tasks masters.

I think Blacks are starting to see that amnesty serves them a bitter pill in the long run.

I believe that many Blacks with common sense are starting to see that they have been used by the elitist’s arrogant leaders of the Democrat party for the last 150 years.

Now all of a sudden they see the liberals willing to throw them aside like a used ham bone for what the Democrats see as new better controlled inhabitants for the plantation.

Problem is the legal common sense Mexican/Americans see this free give away legislation as cheapening of the citizenship they had to earn.

Actually this whole scenario is beginning to be some fun sitting and watching the twisting and turning machinations and doings of the RINOs and the Democrat Demagogues.

As usual these kiss up philanderers to big money took what they thought was the safe side by jumping early but now find themselves on the wrong side of the issue.

Now that public opinion has switched even further against amnesty, the Murdering Ted Kennedy's and John McCaniacs are in the super minority with their free for all, give away for nothing citizenship legislation to garner votes.

McCaniac with his stand with Murdering Ted Kennedy can kiss his future aspirations for president in the by and by.

McCaniac needed a strong base and he just shot his big chance in the butt, P!$$!ng on those who he needed to support his inane campaign.

Hairy Rid and Nancy Poopalosie have once again shown the voters why the Democrats are sucking Republican exhaust fumes on the 2006 election highway.

I find it quite comical that every time the Democrats have an opportunity to stand up for America they are lying off in the weeds waiting to ambush the majority's wishes.

This current crop of Democrat leaders are nothing more than the laughing stock of every third world wannabe politician.

Well that is my lowly opinion of how I see the current situation on immigration.

I am sticking with the president even though I do not necessarily agree with him on immigration.
366 posted on 05/04/2006 9:12:51 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: ideas_over_party
"You know something? You really aren't worth any more time. You don't - and never have - wanted to debate any issue. "

LOL! But I do, two issue in fact:

1) How can you say you'd never vote for a liberal AND say you would vote for Liberman?

2) How can you claim that the only reason you would vote for Liberman (when you would never vote for a liberal) is because of his stance on the WOT when just a few minutes before you said the only reason you would vote for Liberman (when you would never vote for a liberal) is because you think he's a nice guy?

367 posted on 05/04/2006 9:15:34 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: ideas_over_party
"I didn't say I WOULD vote for him."

"The only situation I WOULD ever vote Democrat would be a McCain vs Lieberman match - based entirely on my impression that at least Lieberman is a generally decent man."

369 posted on 05/04/2006 9:26:18 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: ideas_over_party
"I didn't say I WOULD vote for him."

But you would vote for him..."Based on his support for the WOT - which after McCain's "Bill of Rights for terrorists"....

and, "based entirely on my impression that at least Lieberman is a generally decent man."

371 posted on 05/04/2006 9:28:43 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: ideas_over_party
"Theoretical vs what would actually happen in 2008."

You never used "theoretical" in your excuse for voting for a liberal, which you would never vote for.

372 posted on 05/04/2006 9:29:56 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: ideas_over_party
"Ah, but then I looked him up on the ACU website."

Perhaps you should have done that before you said you would vote for him:

1) because of his WOT stance, or

2) because he's just a nice guy, or

3) because you would never vote for a liberal even though he is one.

374 posted on 05/04/2006 9:38:33 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: ideas_over_party

I don't want to win you over.


375 posted on 05/04/2006 9:41:45 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: CWOJackson

Not a very good script either.


376 posted on 05/04/2006 9:43:09 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Chena
I don't think Soros is giving them the money he used to so hiring good help is probably out of the question. They're stuck with volunteers.
378 posted on 05/04/2006 9:47:14 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: MNJohnnie
>>"'There is no conservative agenda without Ronald Reagan,' Bennett said. 'He is the man who made whatever good has happened to this Administration happen, and people should be mindful of that.'<<

I agree with the basic premise that deserting the President is unwise for Republicans but you can't make analogies about President Bush43 and Reagan and conservatism. The spending, lack of vetos and the war in Iraq are not conservative. But that's not the issue. The issue is whether we stand together and whether we prefer Hillary or someone similar.
379 posted on 05/04/2006 9:47:20 PM PDT by gondramB (He who angers you, in part, controls you. But he may not enjoy what the rest of you does about it.)
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To: OKIEDOC
I am sticking with the president even though I do not necessarily agree with him on immigration.

Yet another sentence I wish I could fit into my tagline. :)

380 posted on 05/04/2006 9:47:41 PM PDT by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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