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George Allen: Rebel flag was teen 'attitude.' Magazine reports on rebel symbols he had in school
Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | 4/30/6 | Peter Hardin and Tyler Whitley

Posted on 04/30/2006 7:41:33 PM PDT by Crackingham

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To: EternalVigilance

I doubt i'm mistaken, but it is you who will be sorely mistaken when Allen wins the nod in the 2008 primaries. Rudy won't even bother, frist is a joke, romney will get laughed out of the primaries. I guess that leaves brownback (not a prayer). Of course you have the pence fans on here, but pence wouldn't even run for majority leader because he had small children, do they honestly think in 2 years he will run for the presidency? (not to disparage pence here, i like him alot and would love to see a president pence someday, but hes not a candidate in 2008.

It'll come down to allen and mccain, given mccain couldn't win last time with democrats help hes not going to win this time when democrats are tied up in their own primary. lets not forget that allen has the backing of a lot of talk radio (rush and hannity for example) and his support is growing in the blogosphere. Keep whining and tossing your petty attacks, they will ultimately do little. Have the last word if it makes you happy, i've got better things to do today then beating a dead horse.


121 posted on 05/01/2006 1:08:12 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: SDGOP

Giuliani is to the left of Bill Clinton. He could win a Dem nomination, maybe, but will never win the GOP nomination.

McCain is an anti-freedom freak. He couldn't even win NH now.

Romney is a stonecold liberal. His MA socialized medicine blew open his short-lived masquerade as a 'conservative'.

Any ambitions Sam Brownback had died on the immigration hill.

George Allen's phony positions on abortion, gays, stem cells, guns and the borders disqualify him for consideration.

Mike Pence is a conservative hero. Whether he'll be willing to risk his entire political career (as a House member who has to run every two years) on a presidential run is doubtful.

So, many of us are still looking. Sorry.

Good thing we're still two years out.


122 posted on 05/01/2006 1:19:41 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: SDGOP

Oh, I forgot Frist.

He's better than most on that list, though far from perfect philosophically.

But, in any case, he seems to be lacking the fire in his belly for today's all-out policial warfare.


123 posted on 05/01/2006 1:22:53 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: SDGOP
I doubt i'm mistaken

You really don't know me if you think I'm supporting any RINO.

124 posted on 05/01/2006 1:23:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (George Allen's conservatism is as ephemeral as his virtual fence.)
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To: umgud
change that to "IS" & i'll agree.

free dixie,sw

125 posted on 05/01/2006 2:20:10 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stainlessbanner
i'm glad you said that!

usmcobra hasn't had a GOOD post since he showed up on FR. just more & more IGNORANT, pointless BILGE.

free dixie,sw

126 posted on 05/01/2006 2:25:09 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: wardaddy
EXACTLY CORRECT!

the members of the DY coven (less N-S of course) are too clueLESS to understand that simple concept.

they all live in a "twisted, WIERD, little world of their own", imVho.free dixie,sw

127 posted on 05/01/2006 2:28:06 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stainlessbanner
BUT the members of the "DAMNyankee coven of fools & lunatics" are NOT conservatives. they are STATISTS & mostly HATERS.

one wonder why someone hasn't DUMPED them off FR.

free dixie,sw

128 posted on 05/01/2006 2:30:09 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: usmcobra
we are NOT surprised that you do NOT understand this SIMPLE concept.

free dixie,sw

129 posted on 05/01/2006 2:31:00 PM PDT by stand watie ( Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. -----T.Jefferson)
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To: stainlessbanner
You worry about me too much.

I'm asking a simple question, Why can't any of you confederate flag defenders condemn the people that did the most damage to the honor of the south, that of course being the Democrats?

Simple logic would say that if you are unwilling to condemn the democrats for what they are clearly guilty of, then you must have a reason that is so airtight it must be shared with anyone that is bothered by your lack of commitment restoring that honor, so why won't you condemn The democrats for dishonoring the south?

130 posted on 05/01/2006 2:39:08 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: okiecon

My hatred of democrats continues to this very day because they are a thousand times the political worst then any republican could ever be on this issue.

Democrats created the Klu Klux Klan as a political terror weapon, used it to the point where we almost had a second war between the states, used the confedertate flag as the banner of the Klan, and as a symbol of white supermacy in the south turned around and did a 180 when they knew they had lost the south to Reagan and used the symbol they used to show their control over the south to control the black vote in the south saying republicans are racists we're not.

and now they will use it again to destroy George Allen if given the chance, what I want to know is why the defenders of the confederate flag won't say anything about how the democrats have used it and continue to use it today in a way that dishonors the memory of Confederate dead, after all isn't that it their honor they are supposed to be defending, and not the democrats?


131 posted on 05/01/2006 2:51:14 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: archy

Get a butternut truck, archy - that's the right thing to do!


132 posted on 05/01/2006 2:52:46 PM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Oh yeah. Like that's gonna carry the south...

We're not talking about the South, this is only a Senate race in Virginia. Allen has not declared for higher office. Try to keep up [lol].

133 posted on 05/01/2006 3:00:32 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: stand watie; okiecon; usmcobra

cobra's posts are interesting alternative history. No source quotes or credits on any posts.


134 posted on 05/01/2006 3:02:39 PM PDT by stainlessbanner (Free Travis!)
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To: stainlessbanner
Common knowledge of American history, for instance I know that it wasn't Nathan Bedford Forrest that created The Klu Klux Klan but instead it was the Pulaski six or as they are better known The "Immortal Six", all former confederates and all democrats wanting to prevent republicans from mobilizing Blacks to vote in Tennessee, that originally formed the Klan and quickly turned it into the terror wing of the democratic party.

Do you doubt I can prove this with any number of quotes or credits, do you doubt I can prove that democrats have used the confederate flag as a symbol of white supremacy in the south, do you doubt I can prove that democrats today are leveling charges of racism against republicans because of the confederate flag?

I should not need to prove this things to someone that claims to be a defender of the confederate flag to someone that is supposed to know their heritage, to someone that claims to be a defender of the south's honored dead, I should not have to prove to you what you should already know and be angered by....

Are you angered by the way the democrats have done their worst to destroy your heritage for political gain, and if not then why aren't you?

135 posted on 05/01/2006 3:24:23 PM PDT by usmcobra (Those that are incited to violence by the sight of OUR flag are the enemies of this nation.)
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To: usmcobra

Democrats pander and have no principles, you aren't informing anyone of anything new there.


136 posted on 05/01/2006 4:04:31 PM PDT by okiecon
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To: EternalVigilance; P8riot

P8riot, could you set the record straight on this one please. Thanks.


137 posted on 05/01/2006 4:05:24 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (HHD: Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: usmcobra
As an amateur vexillologist, I have to point out that the cross of St. Andrew is always a White cross on a blue field

Wrong. The St. Andrews cross used on the Scottish flag was white on BLACK in 1385, in 1503 it was changed to red, and then in 1542 was changed to the blue of today. Southerners chose to use the St. Andrews CROSS (what he was crucified on), not the flag of Scotland.

When anyone tells you that the confederate flag consists of the flags of St. Andrew and St. Patrick joined as one they are ignorant of the truth The southern cross is a corruption of religious symbols, inverted to do the devil's work.

The flag was designed by congressman William Porcher Miles, described in the 38 Southern Historical Society Papers. The cross was carried by "Braveheart" (William Wallace), and was a symbol of resistance to oppression.

138 posted on 05/01/2006 4:06:29 PM PDT by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: archy

Lots of connections with the old lone star and the bonnie blue

not surprising give many texicans came from the old southwest


139 posted on 05/01/2006 4:07:37 PM PDT by wardaddy (MALDEF and LULAC have infested this forum....as if RINOS weren't bad enough)
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To: usmcobra
Common knowledge of American history, for instance I know that it wasn't Nathan Bedford Forrest that created The Klu Klux Klan but instead it was the Pulaski six or as they are better known The "Immortal Six", all former confederates and all democrats wanting to prevent republicans from mobilizing Blacks to vote in Tennessee, that originally formed the Klan and quickly turned it into the terror wing of the democratic party.

And that under Nathan Bedford Forrest's leadership, the Klan not only took positions of local political leadership, but also served to organize veterans of the previous war to help arrange mutual support for their fellows, and which included black Confederate veterans such as Forrest's wartime drovers and teamsters.

I don't know that such membership was limited to Confederate veterans, though that was probably the practical case. But Forrest's view was one of reconciliation if it could be done. And if not, of handing the South's occupiers a hatfull of the trouble they'd started.

140 posted on 05/01/2006 4:18:25 PM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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