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Rebecca Peters: Nations disarm as laws tighten
The Australian ^ | 28apr06 | Rebecca Peters

Posted on 04/30/2006 10:06:16 AM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Gun grabbing coming here. Join the NRA.


41 posted on 05/01/2006 10:38:07 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: Andonius_99; from occupied ga; Shooter 2.5; neverdem
The are as much our implacable enemies as Mohammed Atma and his crew of 911 murderers. There are only three outcomes for this struggle. We kill them. They kill us. We end up totally enslaved and under their dominion. They will accept nothing else.

Precisely. More on our sworn enemy *here*.

Born in 1962, Peters grew up as a teenager in Costa Rica, the second of six children in an American family. As her father worked for the American Government there, 'half jokingly,' she suggested in an interview in Australia he "probably worked for the CIA." At age 15 years while attending an "alternative school" in Costa Rica, Peters was educated by itinerant "young hippies". It was during this new-age education she became "obsessed with changing the world."

In Sydney, Peters enrolled in a university in the faculty of Engineering (possibly Macquarie), being just one of only two females in the course, but in 1983 she dropped out. For a time Rebecca took a job as a researcher and reporter with ABC Radio (known locally as the "Gay-BC"), worked with Andrew Olle, but soon found the nature of journalism, 'too disposable'.

In 1991 with a not-so-subtle agenda, Peters returned to university, enrolled as a law student gaining her law degree, at the end of which, she produced a thesis on 'tighter gun control'. This was the "centrepiece" of an enormous folio of material she collected and wrote for her campaign to remove loop-holes in existing gun laws in Australia. She promoted herself as a 'multilingual middle-class lawyer' who was fanatical about "gun control".

More here:

You may wish to drop a line to the Doctor so here is her working address: The Center on Crime, Community and Culture, 400 West 59th Street, New York, NY10019. Or perhaps you may wish to forward a congratulatory e-mail to < rpeters@sorosny.org .
Rebecca's doctorate included a stipend incidentally of US$32,500 p. a., plus various expenses covered in her 'budgeted' expenses, the lot bankrolled by the tax-exempt Soros Foundation.


42 posted on 05/01/2006 10:38:59 AM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: archy

Another lawyer, no wonder she's worse than useless.


43 posted on 05/01/2006 10:45:59 AM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: BooksForTheRight.com
Gun grabbing coming here. Join the NRA.

Unless you actually oppose firearms confiscation and licensing, in which case alliance with a group that's repeatedly supported gun control efforts from the Gun Control Act of 1968 to the Brady Bill might not be your cup of tea.

1968: General Franklin Orth, Executive Vice President of NRA, testifies before Congress in favor of the Gun Control Act (GCA'68) that "[The NRA does] not think that any sane American, who calls himself an American, can object to placing into this bill the instrument which killed the president of the United States," /2/ (a ban on the mail-order sale of firearms). His statement of NRA support generates heated opposition from the (presumably insane) portion of the NRA membership, creating split between "sportsmen" and "hardliners."
In which case, reconsider supporting those who bargain with your enemies, and study the alternatives.

GOA *here*,

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership *here*,

Second Amendment Foundation *here*,

National Firearms Act Trade and Collectors Association *here*

44 posted on 05/01/2006 10:58:05 AM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: neverdem
Another lawyer, no wonder she's worse than useless.

Note, however, that we do have more than a few pretty good ones on our side.

It seems largely to be a matter of examining their backgrounds and the motives for their association with the causes they support. I've seen very few of those who support the Second Amendment getting rich at it; quite the opposite: they're often funding Second Amendment Civil Rights activities out of their own pockets.

45 posted on 05/01/2006 11:01:06 AM PDT by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: archy
Get your facts straight. The NRA wasn't a lobbying group during the 1968 gun act. They were not registered with the IRS to be a lobbying group and to do so would have violated the law.
Today the NRA has approval to be a NGO[Non-Governmental Organization] to observe the UN first hand and to warn Americans about Global Gun Control.

Orth died in 1970 and your "Facts" are over thirty years old.

46 posted on 05/01/2006 5:09:04 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

Has the NRA ever backed a bad bill or made a mistake in our view? Are you one of the NRA's paid staff?


47 posted on 05/02/2006 2:32:17 AM PDT by Badray (The Dems WILL eat your children. Trouble is, the RINOs are preheating the oven for them.)
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To: Badray
Yes, they have made mistakes based on members who spoke out of turn without any official sanction. There's also CARA which the NRA only supported a couple of amendments to the Bill. The NRA didn't support the entire bill which isn't explained by the NRA's critics.

They also play it safe by supporting politicians with PROVEN voting records since they have been burned before by two faced opportunists.

From my understanding at the moment and reading the NRA's history, the organization had two incidences where they had revolts in their ranks. They threw out the "sportsman" on two occasions to get to the Second Amendment supporters we have today. It's not the same organization from the 1970's.

48 posted on 05/02/2006 5:12:13 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: archy

It isn't just Peters, evil though she is. It is also politicians like Schumer, Kennedy, Clinton (h), Waxman, Feinstein, Boxer, Owens, etc. And, what's more depressing, is these jerks are not the disease, they're the symptom. It is the liberal morons who make up the majority of the electorate in their oblasts who vote for them who are the real enemy.


49 posted on 05/02/2006 6:07:20 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Shooter 2.5; archy

So, does that mean that you are a paid apologist or just a volunteer?

Arlen Specter is a reliable politician? Many times when the NRA rates a candidate as an "A", we* refuse to endorse them as acceptable because of their terrible records.

The NRA's paid state coordinators (or whatever their titles happen to be) have supported some terrible anti pro 2nd Amendment bills here in PA and elsewhere.

*'We' is Firearm Owners Against Crime, on the net at:

www.foac-pac.org


50 posted on 05/02/2006 11:59:57 AM PDT by Badray (The Dems WILL eat your children. Trouble is, the RINOs are preheating the oven for them.)
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To: Badray

And who would those politicians who were rated "A" and have terrible records?

What "Terrible Amendments" have the NRA supported?

The NRA did not under any circumstances support the Brady Bill so you can forget trying to list that one. The U.S. Supreme Court decision against parts of the Brady Bill was funded by the NRA. The court ruled the Federal Government couldn't compel the states to fund a federal regulatory program.


51 posted on 05/02/2006 3:13:57 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5

While I am looking up the specifics, can you answer my question?

Are you a bad NRA staffer?

Or tell me why you won't tell me?


52 posted on 05/02/2006 3:57:34 PM PDT by Badray
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To: Shooter 2.5

PS -- Are you actually defending Arlen Specter as a good choice?


53 posted on 05/02/2006 3:58:43 PM PDT by Badray
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To: Badray

I considered that a stupid question. I'm a machinist for a small fabrication shop.
I couldn't tell you every politician who received an "A" rating or if Arlen Specter received one. Link the information if he did.


54 posted on 05/02/2006 4:19:50 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: EdReform; proud_yank; nralife; EagleUSA; tcostell

For your amusement. Check out the anti-NRA comments.


55 posted on 05/03/2006 5:27:44 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Thanks for the ping. I see there's been no reply to your question "What "Terrible Amendments" have the NRA supported?"
56 posted on 05/04/2006 9:28:24 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: EdReform

I didn't think he would post the facts on the question. The anti-NRA crowd always has an excuse to do nothing. They can't find an excuse to do something.
Over the weekend, I bought the book, "NRA, an American Legend". They don't sugarcoat the facts. I was lucky to find it at a discount bookstore. It was well worth the twenty bucks.


57 posted on 05/04/2006 4:27:30 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Badray

I noticed on another thread you wanted someone to answer your question.
Can you answer whether on not Spector has an "A" rating from the NRA? Take your time, I have all weekend.


58 posted on 05/05/2006 3:28:42 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Vote a Straight Republican Ballot. Rid the country of dems. NRA)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Using the 'search' function at this link:

http://www.nraila.org/Search/Search.aspx

I found this headline:

VOTE FREEDOM FIRST -- VOTE FOR CONGRESSMAN JIM GERLACH (PA-06) ON NOVEMBER 2

[ Also, be sure to vote for other endorsed candidates George Bush for President, Arlen Specter for U... Also, be sure to vote for other endorsed candidates George Bush for President, Arlen Specter for U...]

http://www.nraila.org

The link must be dead because it only took me back to the ILA page. Regardless of the rating -- which I can't find -- Specter was the endorsed candidate.

My turn now. Are you going to argue that Specter was a good choice? Was he the most gun friendly candidate in the race?

I'll give you a clue. He told me -- in front of an audience of over 100 people (about 2 years ago, in the months preceding the primary) -- that he would vote to ban 'assualt weapons' again (meaning he did it before) even though he 'regretted' his vote and the ban was ineffective and violated our rights.

Does that sound like the kind of guy that a pro gun organization should endorse?

59 posted on 05/06/2006 1:52:59 AM PDT by Badray
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To: Shooter 2.5
I asked:

Are you a bad NRA staffer?

That should read paid NRA staffer, not bad. Sorry.

60 posted on 05/06/2006 1:57:21 AM PDT by Badray
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