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NEWS9 (Oklahoma City) ^ | April 29, 2006 | Nick Winkler

Posted on 04/29/2006 6:35:56 AM PDT by MizSterious

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To: Dane

Dane, you're dead wrong on a lot of things, e.g. injecting teachers' unions (a `red herring' or strawman) when the issue is illegal aliens.
But you have a lot of sand, it takes grit to serve as a `sounding board' and we're lucky to have you. Hang in there.


141 posted on 04/29/2006 9:31:19 AM PDT by OkieDoke
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To: Dane

"I'm sure they have heard your whining instead of debating."

You consider your childish evasions to be debate? LOL. I guess Mara Salvatrucha 13 (MS-13), a gang that is alarmingly sophisticated, as far as weaponry and tactics, that is considered to be a major threat in assisting terrorists from the middle east, as something of very recent vintage, that would not exist if we'd just shut up about illegal aliens. Your so-called "points" are ludicrous.


142 posted on 04/29/2006 9:32:49 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Dane

��5{��������was also an official holiday in the old West Germany."

Plenty of communists involved in organizing "Nothing Gringo Day," but I don't recall seeing anything distinctly West German in any of the coverage. Is it a conspiracy, Dane? Should we be upset with former West Germans for fomenting this May Day strike, and not communist front groups such as International ANSWER?


143 posted on 04/29/2006 9:36:12 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: OkieDoke
Dane, you're dead wrong on a lot of things, e.g. injecting teachers' unions (a `red herring' or strawman) when the issue is illegal aliens.

What is wrong in mentioning the leftist attitudes of today's American education system. That is what driving these demonstrations, with a lot of help from tancredo type of animistic rhetoric, IMO.

144 posted on 04/29/2006 9:36:45 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

....the liberals at that public school are in favor of insulting Americans....

But they are advancing your side of the arguement. They are the ones who want more illegal immigrants to flood over the border. They are the ones who demonize Cong Tancredo and Cong Sensennbrenner. The point isn't that they are liberals, its that they seek to undermine the laws of this country and the legal immigration that made this country great.


....your hero tancredo would rather focus on the ethnic surnames of people ..

Your show yourself to be full of it with two points in one sentence. Tengo muchos amigos que sean hispánicos pero son legales.

By the way, you haven't said which Hillary you worship, the 'police state' Hillary or the 'build a wall' Hillary. Just haven't caught up with the talking points have you?


145 posted on 04/29/2006 9:38:14 AM PDT by sgtyork (May it ever be so, that our government is not afraid to trust the people with arms)
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To: MizSterious; Dane

Dane, this is a now low for you.


146 posted on 04/29/2006 9:39:33 AM PDT by wardaddy (MALDEF and LULAC have infested this forum....as if RINOS weren't bad enough)
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To: MizSterious; Dane

Dane, this is a new low for you....tsk tsk


147 posted on 04/29/2006 9:40:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (MALDEF and LULAC have infested this forum....as if RINOS weren't bad enough)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Plenty of communists involved in organizing "Nothing Gringo Day," but I don't recall seeing anything distinctly West German in any of the coverage. Is it a conspiracy, Dane? Should we be upset with former West Germans for fomenting this May Day strike, and not communist front groups such as International ANSWER?

Uh reggy, the point is that May 1st is considered a holiday all over Europe, not just the old soviet union.

We have our own labor day, the first Monday in September. Probably constructed by those evil(according to some on FR) oil companies so that we will drive to picnics.

148 posted on 04/29/2006 9:40:12 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

"What is wrong in mentioning the leftist attitudes of today's American education system."

Nothing wrong with mentioning it at all, other than the fact that you are in complete agreement with them as far as illegal aliens are concerned, and you somehow seem to believe that this supports your contentions, whatever they might happen to be at any given moment.


149 posted on 04/29/2006 9:41:42 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: sgtyork
But they are advancing your side of the arguement. They are the ones who want more illegal immigrants to flood over the border. They are the ones who demonize Cong Tancredo and Cong Sensennbrenner. The point isn't that they are liberals, its that they seek to undermine the laws of this country and the legal immigration that made this country great.

Uh no, you are advancing the liberals side of the arguement as you ignore the liberal control of schools and focus on the surnames of the students(ala former public school teacher tancredo).

150 posted on 04/29/2006 9:42:50 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane

"Probably constructed by those evil(according to some on FR) oil companies so that we will drive to picnics."

Try again, Dane. Credit union activists in the United States, wanting to avoid the rather obvious connection to communists that May Day represents.


151 posted on 04/29/2006 9:43:36 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Dane

Are you sure that Congressman Tancredo believes in spirits inhabiting trees and rocks? You are pretty confusing today.

an·i·mism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-mzm)
n.
The belief in the existence of individual spirits that inhabit natural objects and phenomena.
The belief in the existence of spiritual beings that are separable or separate from bodies.
The hypothesis holding that an immaterial force animates the universe.


Or were you perhaps trying to say that he thinks that America should continue as it was until the last 10 years when we began to experience a flood of ILLEGAL immigration, thus an atavist:


at·a·vism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (t-vzm)
n.
The reappearance of a characteristic in an organism after several generations of absence, usually caused by the chance recombination of genes.
An individual or a part that exhibits atavism. Also called throwback.

You are a pretty good communicator, just not good enough.


152 posted on 04/29/2006 9:45:02 AM PDT by sgtyork (May it ever be so, that our government is not afraid to trust the people with arms)
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To: Dane

"Uh no, you are advancing the liberals side of the arguement as you ignore the liberal control of schools and focus on the surnames of the students"

Their surnames are, almost without exception, of European origin. So, again, what on earth is your point, other than misdirection?


153 posted on 04/29/2006 9:45:32 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Try again, Dane. Credit union activists in the United States, wanting to avoid the rather obvious connection to communists that May Day represents

And where have I advocated May day to be an official holiday, I haven't.

Heck even the teacher unions would be against that, since May day is a set date and can't be made into a three day weekened.

154 posted on 04/29/2006 9:46:09 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: RegulatorCountry; wardaddy; All

This has been posted elsewhere, but I thought I'd repost it here:

Mexican Standoff

I don’t know how everybody else feels about it, but to me I think Hispanic people in this country, legally or illegally, made a huge public relations mistake with their recent demonstrations.

I don’t blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the United States of America, as it is a truly wonderful place. But when the first thing you do when you set foot on American soil is illegal it is flat out wrong and I don’t care how many lala land left heads come out of the woodwork and start trying to give me sensitivity lessons.

I don’t need sensitivity lessons, in fact I don’t have anything against Mexicans, I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes into this country illegally is a criminal and if you don’t believe it try coming into America from a foreign country without a passport and see how far you get.

What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that it’s tantamount to saying, “I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and there’s nothing you can do about it.”

It’s an “in your face” action and speaking just for me I don’t like it one little bit and if there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington bigger than English peas it wouldn’t be happening.

Where are you, you bunch of lilly livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry excuses for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water out of the Potomac again?

And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden and watered down that it won’t mean anything anyway. Besides, what good is another law going to do when you won’t enforce the ones on the books now?

And what ever happened to the polls guys? I thought you folks were the quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure ain’t paying any attention to the polls this time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans want something done about this mess, and mess it is and getting bigger everyday.

This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy. Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can’t happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?

If you, Mr. President, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the kind of country your children and grandchildren will inherit.

But I guess that doesn’t matter as long as you get re-elected.

Shame on you.

Pray for our troops.

What do you think?

God Bless America

Charlie Daniels April 3, 2006

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1623764/posts


155 posted on 04/29/2006 9:46:50 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: sgtyork; Dane

"Are you sure that Congressman Tancredo believes in spirits inhabiting trees and rocks? You are pretty confusing today."

And here I was, thinking he meant "animus." I have to admit, your explanation makes as much sense as Dane does, though.


156 posted on 04/29/2006 9:47:36 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
Their surnames are, almost without exception, of European origin. So, again, what on earth is your point, other than misdirection?

Please, we all know that spanish surnames conjure up a certain ethnicity for you to direct knee jerk animus towards.

157 posted on 04/29/2006 9:48:07 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: clawrence3

If all illegals would simply go back to their own country, they would not have to be concerned with being accused of anything that happens here. Sounds like a great solution to me.


158 posted on 04/29/2006 9:49:39 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Build a Real Border Fence, and enforce Immigration Laws!!!)
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To: Dane

focus on the surnames of the students

It is apparently very important to you that this be about race. Scratch a lefty, expose a bigot.

If addressing illegal immigration affects ILLEGAL Polish, Irish, Chinese, Middle Eastern immigrants it still is enforcing the laws of this country.

So which Hillary are you counting on? The one that agrees with Congressman Tancredo (Gee that's not an Anglo surname) or the one that agrees with Vincente Fox?


159 posted on 04/29/2006 9:50:09 AM PDT by sgtyork (May it ever be so, that our government is not afraid to trust the people with arms)
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To: sgtyork

Excuse me, sorry for the Webster dictionary faux pas, but one has to admit that tancredo, has a certain animus towards people with spanish surnames, except when they redo his basement, then he blames the contractor he hired.


160 posted on 04/29/2006 9:50:55 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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