Posted on 04/29/2006 6:35:56 AM PDT by MizSterious
Dane, you're dead wrong on a lot of things, e.g. injecting teachers' unions (a `red herring' or strawman) when the issue is illegal aliens.
But you have a lot of sand, it takes grit to serve as a `sounding board' and we're lucky to have you. Hang in there.
"I'm sure they have heard your whining instead of debating."
You consider your childish evasions to be debate? LOL. I guess Mara Salvatrucha 13 (MS-13), a gang that is alarmingly sophisticated, as far as weaponry and tactics, that is considered to be a major threat in assisting terrorists from the middle east, as something of very recent vintage, that would not exist if we'd just shut up about illegal aliens. Your so-called "points" are ludicrous.
5{was also an official holiday in the old West Germany."
Plenty of communists involved in organizing "Nothing Gringo Day," but I don't recall seeing anything distinctly West German in any of the coverage. Is it a conspiracy, Dane? Should we be upset with former West Germans for fomenting this May Day strike, and not communist front groups such as International ANSWER?
What is wrong in mentioning the leftist attitudes of today's American education system. That is what driving these demonstrations, with a lot of help from tancredo type of animistic rhetoric, IMO.
....the liberals at that public school are in favor of insulting Americans....
But they are advancing your side of the arguement. They are the ones who want more illegal immigrants to flood over the border. They are the ones who demonize Cong Tancredo and Cong Sensennbrenner. The point isn't that they are liberals, its that they seek to undermine the laws of this country and the legal immigration that made this country great.
....your hero tancredo would rather focus on the ethnic surnames of people ..
Your show yourself to be full of it with two points in one sentence. Tengo muchos amigos que sean hispánicos pero son legales.
By the way, you haven't said which Hillary you worship, the 'police state' Hillary or the 'build a wall' Hillary. Just haven't caught up with the talking points have you?
Dane, this is a now low for you.
Dane, this is a new low for you....tsk tsk
Uh reggy, the point is that May 1st is considered a holiday all over Europe, not just the old soviet union.
We have our own labor day, the first Monday in September. Probably constructed by those evil(according to some on FR) oil companies so that we will drive to picnics.
"What is wrong in mentioning the leftist attitudes of today's American education system."
Nothing wrong with mentioning it at all, other than the fact that you are in complete agreement with them as far as illegal aliens are concerned, and you somehow seem to believe that this supports your contentions, whatever they might happen to be at any given moment.
Uh no, you are advancing the liberals side of the arguement as you ignore the liberal control of schools and focus on the surnames of the students(ala former public school teacher tancredo).
"Probably constructed by those evil(according to some on FR) oil companies so that we will drive to picnics."
Try again, Dane. Credit union activists in the United States, wanting to avoid the rather obvious connection to communists that May Day represents.
Are you sure that Congressman Tancredo believes in spirits inhabiting trees and rocks? You are pretty confusing today.
an·i·mism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-mzm)
n.
The belief in the existence of individual spirits that inhabit natural objects and phenomena.
The belief in the existence of spiritual beings that are separable or separate from bodies.
The hypothesis holding that an immaterial force animates the universe.
Or were you perhaps trying to say that he thinks that America should continue as it was until the last 10 years when we began to experience a flood of ILLEGAL immigration, thus an atavist:
at·a·vism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (t-vzm)
n.
The reappearance of a characteristic in an organism after several generations of absence, usually caused by the chance recombination of genes.
An individual or a part that exhibits atavism. Also called throwback.
You are a pretty good communicator, just not good enough.
"Uh no, you are advancing the liberals side of the arguement as you ignore the liberal control of schools and focus on the surnames of the students"
Their surnames are, almost without exception, of European origin. So, again, what on earth is your point, other than misdirection?
And where have I advocated May day to be an official holiday, I haven't.
Heck even the teacher unions would be against that, since May day is a set date and can't be made into a three day weekened.
This has been posted elsewhere, but I thought I'd repost it here:
Mexican Standoff
I dont know how everybody else feels about it, but to me I think Hispanic people in this country, legally or illegally, made a huge public relations mistake with their recent demonstrations.
I dont blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the United States of America, as it is a truly wonderful place. But when the first thing you do when you set foot on American soil is illegal it is flat out wrong and I dont care how many lala land left heads come out of the woodwork and start trying to give me sensitivity lessons.
I dont need sensitivity lessons, in fact I dont have anything against Mexicans, I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes into this country illegally is a criminal and if you dont believe it try coming into America from a foreign country without a passport and see how far you get.
What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that its tantamount to saying, I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and theres nothing you can do about it.
Its an in your face action and speaking just for me I dont like it one little bit and if there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington bigger than English peas it wouldnt be happening.
Where are you, you bunch of lilly livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry excuses for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water out of the Potomac again?
And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden and watered down that it wont mean anything anyway. Besides, what good is another law going to do when you wont enforce the ones on the books now?
And what ever happened to the polls guys? I thought you folks were the quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure aint paying any attention to the polls this time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans want something done about this mess, and mess it is and getting bigger everyday.
This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy. Do you honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims cant happen here when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?
If you, Mr. President, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the kind of country your children and grandchildren will inherit.
But I guess that doesnt matter as long as you get re-elected.
Shame on you.
Pray for our troops.
What do you think?
God Bless America
Charlie Daniels April 3, 2006
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1623764/posts
"Are you sure that Congressman Tancredo believes in spirits inhabiting trees and rocks? You are pretty confusing today."
And here I was, thinking he meant "animus." I have to admit, your explanation makes as much sense as Dane does, though.
Please, we all know that spanish surnames conjure up a certain ethnicity for you to direct knee jerk animus towards.
If all illegals would simply go back to their own country, they would not have to be concerned with being accused of anything that happens here. Sounds like a great solution to me.
focus on the surnames of the students
It is apparently very important to you that this be about race. Scratch a lefty, expose a bigot.
If addressing illegal immigration affects ILLEGAL Polish, Irish, Chinese, Middle Eastern immigrants it still is enforcing the laws of this country.
So which Hillary are you counting on? The one that agrees with Congressman Tancredo (Gee that's not an Anglo surname) or the one that agrees with Vincente Fox?
Excuse me, sorry for the Webster dictionary faux pas, but one has to admit that tancredo, has a certain animus towards people with spanish surnames, except when they redo his basement, then he blames the contractor he hired.
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