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Orson Scott Card: American Soldiers and How We Use Them
RhinoTimes ^ | April 20, 2006 | Orson Scott Card

Posted on 04/27/2006 10:54:19 AM PDT by Tolik

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To: Tolik

I am so proud of Orson Scott Card, a favorite sci-fi author. He is a liberal who gets it, as indicated in several excellent articles written since 9/11. If we could slip what he's drinking into the kool-aid that the leftist moonbats are drinking, then we have a chance to win the WOT.


21 posted on 04/27/2006 11:59:15 AM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: Tolik

Well written.


22 posted on 04/27/2006 12:01:56 PM PDT by MrEdd (I would have gotten away with it too - if it weren't for those meddling kids and their stupid dog.)
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To: Tolik
Part of the psychology of Hollywood is that actors and directors tend to be self-absorbed, romantic people who concentrate on the emotional because that's their job. A good deal of the anti-Americanism prevalent in that subculture is simply a result of its being more romantic than patriotism. This isn't new but was heightened considerably by the cultural polarization that took place during the 60's and 70's.

There is a meaner aspect to it, IMHO, and that is that some - not all, but some - people who play heroes come to resent the real thing because they know they're only playing them. Real heroes, too, are complex people with as many faults as the rest of us, and a true portrayal of their characters should include those. That does not excuse an actor or director's tendency to exaggerate them in compensation for their own feelings of inferiority, and I suggest that there's been all too much of that.

And Card is right - they do not like being called The Establishment. It just isn't romantic.

23 posted on 04/27/2006 12:22:30 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tolik

Long and well worth a read.


24 posted on 04/27/2006 12:32:19 PM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: GSWarrior
I am about ready to start reading my first Card novel...Pastwatch, the Redemption of Christopher Columbus.

Yes, yes, absolutely yes - if for nothing more than the premise alone. It is not his strongest novel by a long shot (see previous endorsements of Ender's Game) but it plays with fascinating ideas and slaughters some liberal sacred cows.

25 posted on 04/27/2006 1:23:40 PM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: Havok

His books about the women of Gensis are excellent, too. Sarah, Rachel, and Leah and Rebecca all become real people, with real lives confronting real issues. They all find their solutions by finding God's will.

They are amazing, as is their author. :-)

Pinz


26 posted on 04/27/2006 1:27:47 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Tolik

bumpus max


27 posted on 04/27/2006 1:32:11 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: Tolik

bump


28 posted on 04/27/2006 1:45:20 PM PDT by swmobuffalo (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist.)
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To: Pukin Dog

OK, my two cents. I agree with this article and author with the premise that torture does not work on a general basis. Are there certain, and very few, situations where torture can work; yes, but not as a rule. Can you make someone talk after applying enough pain? Yes, but it's the accuracy of the information that is important during questioning. Under physical duress, everyone will try anything to make the pain stop. They will use whatever information they have at hand, usually taking a queue from their interrogator, as to what information they are looking for. That does not, however, provide the interrogator with the right information. Using mental duress is far more successful, both in military and law enforcement questioning in obtaining the correct and verifiable information. While physical torture will certainly gain you information in a shorter period of time, mental duress will readily give the correct information with enough time.


29 posted on 04/27/2006 2:18:53 PM PDT by TheBlueMax ("War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things")
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They will use whatever information they have at hand, usually taking a queue from their interrogator, as to what information they are looking for.

Not if the person being interrogated understands that their information will be verified, and if found inaccurate, additional means will be used to extract valid information.

Also, mental torture takes too long, and is used only in specific circumstances. It is by no means more successful than physical torture.

30 posted on 04/27/2006 2:39:03 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Psst. Hey, do you know anything about roofing? You're illegal? Damn! Now, did I ASK YOU?)
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To: Tolik
Alvin Maker, Ender Wiggin and now this.

Orson Scott Card for President!

He could be the third Democrat I would have ever voted for.

31 posted on 04/27/2006 7:48:35 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken.)
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To: Tolik

Thanks for the ping!


32 posted on 04/27/2006 10:43:51 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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