Posted on 04/25/2006 7:36:56 PM PDT by SUSSA
We have a few members who have called for just that. Some have been banned but some are still here. Now over on Libertypost, they have members who regularly makes threats against the President and have even received USSS visits.
Don't bother with facts, the hate Bush border trolls don't care about facts.
Claiming you voted for the President and then accuse him of treason is the sign of a disruptor.
They overstaid their visas and were here illegally. They used many phony docs, just like most illegals do, and had 64 valid drivers' licenses between them. Get your facts straight.
As far as I, and many Americans are concerned the issue is illegals. I don't care how they got here, or why- they are illegal and it is a major problem and we need to get a grip on it.
You said "maybe" Immigration should have been aware of the hijackers that had expired Visas- Maybe? Homeland security is a joke as long as immigration laws are not enforced for whatever reason.
I personally believe the Mexican border is a huge problem also for security reasons. We have no idea who illegal crossers are, where they come from, or what their intent is in this country. There are many other issues on the border that need to be solved in addition to illegals. That said illegal is illegal, no matter where they came from or how they got here.
They came in to the country legally. 100% legally. That was my point, and that is a fact.
The fact is several were here illegally, their Visa's had expired.
BTW who are you referring to as "Bush Border Trolls?" Do you consider any Freeper who wants a secure border to be one? If so have you seen the results of the polls that were done here on FR about building a fence on the border or deporting the illegals? Just wondering because those numbers were quite high of those in favor of both a fence deporting illegals.
If they used false documents and lied on Visa applications, they did not come here 100% legally. They may have fooled the process, and received legal Visa's, that is not the same as coming here 100% legally. Coming here 100% legally means honesty at every step. If someone acquires a bank loan or credit card through use of fraudulant documents they did not get those things 100% legally did they?
It amazes me how regarding this issue so many can end up arguing on the side of those who are criminals, about the legalities of criminal acts said criminals committed. That in itself should tell you something.
Oh, for heaven's sake! Could you possibly be any more disingenuous?
The fact is, there is a process for obtaining visas, and some people will abuse that process. If you can figure out how to stop that abuse, then you ought to go to work for the ICE instead of trying to paint those who offer facts you don't like as criminals.
I found that out AFTER I posted, so my nose was correct; they STINK and this is NOT an "honest" group/petition/rally at all.
I don't know what site you were on during the Miers/Dubai dustups, but the term Bush-hater was used constantly. It was very popular, right up there with "racist", "sexist", and "stupid moron". :/
Are these charter members of Crackpots United or late joiners?
Apparently some will never get that message but most are too blinded by Bush hatred to see much of anything.
So they are equal opportunity bashers?
How sad.
The fact is no matter how you look at it at least some of the 9/11 hijackers were illegally here. The whole issue of this thread is families of 9/11 victims who realize if immigration laws had been enforced in the past, possibly 9/11 could have been avoided. The only reason this is an issue now is that immigration laws are still not being enforced.
Yes some will bypass any system in place, that doesn't make their activities legal. I was responding to your statement that they entered this country 100% legally, which is not true.
I don't need to work for ICE to know how things work, I spent 10 years working for Customs and Border Protection, which gives me a pretty good idea how things work.
This is a stunt by a group of people who ought to know better.
The White House responds to civil dialogue, not to a bunch of people whose intent is to embarrass the President with a televised stunt.
Ben, that comment was despicable.
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The government should accept petitions filled out by half a million citizens, no matter who they are.
When you lay down with the dogs, you are going to get bit by the fleas.
...said the racist LaRaza parrot.
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