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Our Majority Is In Jeopardy
Human Events ^ | April 24 2006 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 04/25/2006 9:49:30 AM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: RobbyS
"The Republican Party is a coalition of liberals and conservatives. Unhappily without the votes of the liberal Republicans north of the Mason Dixon line, the party does not control House of Senate."

Big deal, and your coalition has brought us the freaken mess we now have, to hell with them.
101 posted on 04/25/2006 1:01:14 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

**your coalition has brought us the freaken mess we now have, to hell with them.**

This "Mess" is far better than the alternative...

Or would you commit suicide to prove a point? No thanks..

Bad Repubs trump Dems ANY DAY...
Until you realize that, we are doomed to CONTINUE the current mess. You change NOTHING by losing elections...


102 posted on 04/25/2006 1:04:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf ((Liberalism-What a Pagan Religion...))
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To: Flavius Josephus
I'm talking about hordes of illiterate, uneducated, disease-carrying, law-scoffing ILLEGAL ALIENS from the socialist, turd world hellhole of mexico trying to escape their fate and turn our country into the same.

And I am talking about well-educated, hard-working and freedom-loving Indians, Ukrainians, Nigerians, Thais, etc, who have always and will always help this country be the greatest in the world.

103 posted on 04/25/2006 1:09:10 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (* Sarcasm tag ALWAYS required. For some FReepers, sarcasm can NEVER be obvious enough.)
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To: RobbyS
>>>>You list suggests that the difference between Reagan and Bush are a matter of degree. Bush was a Texas Republican, not a Texas conservative. I am not sure we get very far separating American and foreign interests. Reagan spent a lot of American bucks to free eastern European countries. or doesn't that count as a "foreign" interest.

That is your perception, not mine. Technically, Bush was a "compassionate conservative" from Texas, with a strong northeast influence.

IMO, globalism is akin to "The New World Order". Something Bush41 was famous for and something Bush43 embraces. While Reagan supported a policy of cooperation among the US and other nations, he also had a protectionist streak in him.

However, I don't see Bush`s intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan as globalist policy. That is simply the WOT. Just as I didn't see Reagan's policy in fighting communism and winning the Cold War, a policy of globalism.

104 posted on 04/25/2006 1:12:46 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: hubbubhubbub

You are crazy....The Contract With America wasa HUGE Success!! It drove the Democrats CRAZY!!! THAT"S how I know it was good.


105 posted on 04/25/2006 1:15:36 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: tcrlaf
>>>>>>His "Liberal" spending cut the Democrats off at the knees by taking away the Big Hammers they were going to use...
Don't like, but it WAS great politics. THAT'S WHY THEY HATE HIM SO MUCH, he doesn't just beat Dems, he DESTROYS them...

What you describe is what I refer to as, STUPID politics. Bush didn't destroy the Democrats. Far from it. His domestic policy agenda has made him the biggest social welfare spender of all time. Bush has expanded the federal bureaucracy like no POTUS in US history. His support for open borders, illegal immigration and amnesty is a page right out of the liberal-libertarian handbook of chaos and anarchy.

The Demlibs do hate Bush. But they hate being out of power even more. Bush just gives them a good target to attack.

106 posted on 04/25/2006 1:23:01 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure our borders;punish employers who hire illegals;stop all welfare to illegals)
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To: AFreeBird

I agree with you. And on top of that, I'm tired of politicians dithering and telling us how difficult solutions are to find.

Solutions are not hard to find. A spine is hard to find in Washington, but if our pols actually had them, solutions to these problems are not difficult. Solutions based on principles and not on accomodation to a million different views.

Illegal immigration, for instance, does not seem like it requires a complicated solution.

1) Crack down on employers, 2) Build a fence, 3) Block illegal residents from receiving public services. None of that is complicated to accomplish. Require a backbone, yes. Complicated, no.

Do all three immediately and simultaneously, and that alone would allow the Republicans to hold both Houses.

Riding the wave of success on the illegal immigration issue, shift taxes away from business and personal productivity and onto consumption.

If we weren't so locked into a two-party system, a new party that championed these issues and held to their promises could take all three branches of government.


107 posted on 04/25/2006 1:49:10 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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To: Reagan Man

I used to be heartened that Bush43 didn't pay attention to polls, because the polls are mostly orchestrated by the left wing. I assumed that meant he would stick to his (and our) principles.

Now, I wonder. He seems to have joined Congress in trying to be 'moderate' as though moderation is a good thing. I like this quote from Ayn Rand:

"There are two sides to every issue: one side is right and the other is wrong, but the middle is always evil."

I think Bush has fallen into the trap of the middle. Fallen and can't get up.


108 posted on 04/25/2006 1:58:24 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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To: tcrlaf
"Bad Repubs trump Dems ANY DAY...
Until you realize that, we are doomed to CONTINUE the current mess. You change NOTHING by losing elections..."

With the great RINO skedaddle to sell out, it is apparent to me, we changed nothing by winning elections.
109 posted on 04/25/2006 2:02:16 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis
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To: Icelander

Actually there is one way for us to have an incumbent in 2008. All we have to do is agree with the dems that Bush wasn't really elected in 2000 so his presidency wasnt legit. That way, 2004 would actually be his first legit term and he would legally be able to run for another term in 2008.


110 posted on 04/25/2006 2:05:46 PM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: tcrlaf

Winning by doing your opponent's job for him is NOT winning.


111 posted on 04/25/2006 2:07:44 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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To: Kellis91789

until you get a MAJORITY of Conservative in Congress, NOT voting Republican is suicide, and not something I care to help commit.

You change NOTHING from the outside. (Unless you have a HUGE media machine quoting your PR releases as God-Given Facts, like the Dems do.)


112 posted on 04/25/2006 3:18:45 PM PDT by tcrlaf ((Liberalism-What a Pagan Religion...))
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To: Kenny Bunkport

Ha! I feel ya bro.


113 posted on 04/25/2006 4:48:39 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Kenny Bunkport

LOL!


114 posted on 04/25/2006 4:50:28 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: tcrlaf
until you get a MAJORITY of Conservative in Congress, NOT voting Republican is suicide, and not something I care to help commit.

So in other words; the pols have us right where they want us; cowering in fear to say or do anything to them vote wise, for fear that the other side will get the upper hand.

That would work until you realize that the sides are becoming one in the same.

We're never going to get our congress critters to grow a spine until we the people get one ourselves, bite the bullet if necessary, and either not show up, or vote for another candidate. BTW: Primaries are a good place to start, you can still vote for your party, but vote the incumbent out. Failing that, vote for a third party, or just don't show up.

If we all did that, our so-called representatives might get the silly idea that they represent US, and depend on US to get them there, and start listening to US.

The situation just plain sucks, but other than outright rebellion, I don't see any other alternatives. If you have one, I'd like to hear it, but spare me the "we have to maintain the status quo or we'll be screwed" line: Because we're already screwed.

115 posted on 04/25/2006 4:52:39 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: dirtboy

Very well said.


116 posted on 04/25/2006 4:56:47 PM PDT by tabsternager
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To: Kellis91789
I hear you, and like you, coming in a close second behind the immigration debacle is our screwed up tax system. And by close second, I'm talking nanoseconds behind.

Bush's tax reform commision/panel, or whatever they were called, was a JOKE!

Talk about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic....

117 posted on 04/25/2006 5:06:07 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: AFreeBird

Yep, the "things could always be worse" argument has worn thin.


118 posted on 04/25/2006 5:34:11 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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To: Kellis91789

Thin? It's downright anorexic!


119 posted on 04/25/2006 5:46:17 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Dole was just another congressional jelly-belly with no vision for the country. His wife is just about as useless as a Senator IMO.


120 posted on 04/25/2006 6:11:59 PM PDT by Cautor
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